Washington Football Team 2021 Fantasy Football

Washington Football Team 2021 Fantasy Football featuring Rumboyz Robbie

Intro 00:05
You’re listening to the good old boys fantasy football podcast. Now here’s your host, Kevin, Derek and Alex.

Derek 00:14
Alrighty. Welcome, and ladies and gentlemen to another episode of the good ol boys fantasy football Podcast. I am Derek and I am joined as always, by your co host, Kevin and Alex. Guys, we have a very special guest joining us tonight. And that is Robbie j of the rumble boys hopping in to help us out this week. We’ve got a great episode for you. So guys, let’s go ahead and move on over into some Washington football team was so got a team of the week to break down and Washington football team. It’s not normal that we get into a playoff team that we’re analyzing this early on before the NFL Draft, but they won their division last year. So they got into the playoffs. They’re no

Alex 00:54
No, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody else just lost that division. They just happened.

Rumboyz Robbie 01:01
We won, we won.

Alex 01:03
That division was nothing everybody else just said you know what, we need to send a representative Washington you’ve you’ve got it.

Rumboyz Robbie 01:13
Traditionally that division is our division is not that bad. Four Lombardi’s?

Alex 01:20
It was, it was bad last year.

Rumboyz Robbie 01:23
A lot of changes happened across the board teams. But yeah, yeah.

Antonio Gibson RB Washington Football Team

Derek 01:28
Oh, very interesting. Let’s go ahead and get on into some Washington football team. We’re gonna start where we always do, and that is in the running back room. And a guy that they drafted last year. Finished number 12. That’s Antonio Gibson. He had 170 rush attempts, 795 yards, 11 rushing touchdowns, 36 receptions on 44 targets for an additional 247 through the air. Guys, your thoughts around Antonio Gibson.

Rumboyz Robbie 02:00
I think he’s gonna end is like potential, rb six, maybe RB seven overall at the at the position. Because we’re going to move up in the draft and we’re going to get Slater as our offensive lineman. Well, I’m manifesting that I don’t think that that’s really going to happen. I don’t have an inside source.

Kevin 02:22
But Heck, that’d be the right move for them. Right. You know, solidify that offensive line, help help keep things going there. Like I’m all about it.

Rumboyz Robbie 02:30
You have been practicing against Chase Young and every practice. So now they’re both just getting better. Like Yeah, yeah. So

Kevin 02:38
I like Gibson. I wasn’t quite as high on them as I think even you were Derrick last year. I know you really liked Gibson come and ride out. You saw that. I think I was a little bashful kind of playing that running back roulette that the the Washington football team kind of looked like it was going to be set out to do at the beginning of the season. And the first couple weeks, you still weren’t sure, right? Like, Gibson wasn’t really catching the ball. Like he thought he was only seeing, you know, 12 1314 touches a game through the first little bit and then all of a sudden he catches fire. They’re using them in the passing game. He’s getting the rock he’s, you know, his

Rumboyz Robbie 03:17
confidence came in.

Kevin 03:18
Yeah, absolutely. See, you can see the game slowed down for midseason, almost like it was crazy. He was fine in the end zone, he was absolutely, you know, kind of that key component in the middle of the season that was helping Washington win some of these football games that propelled them eventually to to win that division. So, um, you know, him getting dinged up, he missed, you know, two of the last four games. So that was that’s what cost him from inside a top 10 finish. So I think Robbie spot on like, six. I don’t know that I’m willing to sign off on six just yet. But I think somewhere in that eight to 10 range is probably where I’m comfortable with Antonio Gibson. Um, you know, if he’s able to, you know, land in the end zone, eight or nine times like he did last year, then absolutely he could, you could see him get up to six because injuries happen at this position. And you have guys like CMC and say Quan go down. Zeke had a crap year last year, you know, Dalvin Cook‘s gonna miss at least two games like and who knows what tomorrow is going to be without Drew Brees under center. So there’s a lot of uncertainty in the top five. Right, you know, and I’m guess I’m leaving Jonathan Taylor out. So the truth is, excuse me, whatever. But well, you’re correct, though. For the point of this. I like him he you know, he he’s, he’s a bit bigger, right six to 211. But he’s he’s got that shift because he played some receiver in college. So he’s really good at that one cut, make the guy Miss. And if he gets into the secondary, y’all that’s where the trouble is, as the Cowboys ask the Cowboys what happens when he just gone like he just absolutely torched him both times last year because he could get on the He got past jaylon Smith and Layton Vander ash and was just boom lights out.

Rumboyz Robbie 05:05
So he knows how important is that we will put Boredoms damn cow girls. Yeah,

Kevin 05:10
there you go. So ron ron Rivera style football, right? play good defense, which the Washington football team did last year. I think that’s still going to improve and run the football. You have Fitzpatrick as your quarterback. Now. We’ll get into that in a second. But I do think this is going to lead to more opportunities for Gibson. And as long as the offensive line, which seems to be the big caveat of this offseason, right, as long as the offensive line can, can stay healthy and stay together. It’s got a bright future y’all. So don’t be afraid to to take him, you know, in your traps or in your dynasties, because you can get him as your RB to and really stack your team off, if that’s how you’re wanting to set up, you know, your fantasy football run for the season.

Alex 05:54
That’s, that’s kind of where I’m right with you there Kevin. And I think the big thing that the the point that is the biggest is that he’s got Ryan Fitzpatrick too. So you know, that that’s gonna help in the, in the, you know, pass catching portion of things and Fitzpatrick for its, you know, everything that he does, the guy knows how to manage a game in and just seems to, you know, know when to push the buttons. And, and it helps everybody else around around him. So I like Antonio Gibson, I’m with you, I’m not sure that I’d throw him up top five, top six. But I do see him as an RD one. If he can, you know, the 11 rushing touchdowns last year was a was very nice. And if he can get close to that number again, that’s gonna that’s gonna keep him there, you know, maybe perhaps an uptick in yards. You know if he can flirt with 900 yards on another, you know, you know, if he doesn’t miss those two games, you’re probably looking at another easy 2530 carries, right easy 2530 carries there so that that could get you to that to that point. So that would be pretty good territory there. So I’m with you on Antonio Gibson. I think I was probably a little gun shy on him last year just because of the situation he was going to. So I was wrong on that. I thought I’ll tell you that I was wrong on that. He had a he turned out a very good year. And that was that was a what he did.

Kevin 07:31
Derek what was his yards per carry last year. You have that in front of him?

Alex 07:36
I’ve got it. Lucky muted himself or point seven by the way. That was three. Thank you. It doesn’t count because he asked you but I answered it. So 4.7 4.7

Derek 07:46
so all right. What that’s that’s the half Alex to push that.

Rumboyz Robbie 07:51
Right there. Jason? Yeah. Next. Up next.

Derek 08:00
So with Antonio Gibson, you’re right. Kevin, I was higher on him than a lot of lot of other folks, especially in our home league draft where I think I took him maybe in the fourth fifth round like it was definitely took him early. Now granted, for those of you that that follow along, we play that one with the two keeper and so really the fourth or fifth round and that one’s really more like the sixth or seventh in a lot of other types of leagues out there. But a couple of things that both concern and excite me with Antonio Gibson here is 111 rushing touchdowns. You look at it, he had an extremely high clip it getting into the endzone he was carrying the ball to the point where it may be tough to duplicate that right. you’d sit there and you think about touchdowns. They’re the hardest thing to project and predict for fantasy. And when you’re talking about him missing a couple of games there. He scored almost a touchdown every single time that he was out there but he is a big body type of guy that can get down there and has a nose for the end zone to get in there. So I think you’ll probably see him maybe regress a little bit as far as touchdowns go, but you’re probably talking about eight, nine somewhere in there. So not much. But I do see a big uptick coming as far as the carries go because you look at it, he only had about 170 carries last year. And I could very easily see him getting up there closer to 225 250 somewhere in that range for it. And if he can maintain anywhere near that same kind of efficiency that he had saved, you know, over a four year 4.3 4.4 even a little bit of a dip there. You’re still talking to over 1000 yard running back there with eight nine touchdowns like that’s a guy that easily we’ll get into the top 10 Sign me up and let’s move on from there. What What do you got Kevin?

Kevin 09:42
I think my my final thought about that is what he could possibly use in or lose in rushing touchdowns. He didn’t have a receiving touchdown last year so I didn’t and with him being utilized in that with Fitz magic. I’m thinking that’s where you’re gonna balance out he may not have 11 on the But I still think he can get to 11 total, just because of his use as a past catcher and being able to use him in some specialty situations.

J.D. McKissic RB Washington Football Team

Derek 10:09
No, absolutely. And you look at the fact to the JD, jd mckissick, who we’re going to right now, jd mckissick was running back 24 last year 85 rush attempts, 365 yards, one rushing touchdowns. But where he did all of his work really was on was through the air with 80 receptions for 110 targets 589 yards, two touchdowns, and just kind of carrying that on. I don’t another year in that system, I think you’ll see Antonio Gibson pick up that pass pro even more so to the point where he’s going to be out there more so in some of that passing down work than jd mckissick was, and you’ll see him also pick up in some targets and absolutely some touchdown receptions there as well, Kevin.

Kevin 10:57
Yeah, as we move into jd mckissick I don’t see at receptions again, guys. Like that was a career year for him. And congratulations, obviously, he he earned that the Washington football team needed him to have that. But I do think you’re gonna see a regression here on these eight interceptions, most of that going towards Gibson, but instead of 80, it wouldn’t surprise me if you’re looking at somewhere between 55 and 60. Like it’s going to be a pretty deep cut, as Washington realizes all the neat fun ways that they can use Gibson, while he’s still absolutely fresh into this league. And before he has any tread worn off his tires.

Rumboyz Robbie 11:38
Just not even going to worry about J.D. McKissic. He’s now RV one, rb two, let me get him off the waiver wire and play and play him in your flags whenever whenever need be. That’s that’s my take. Right? There are other cases.

Alex 11:50
So that was gonna be my my question to everybody was, you know, mckissic finished is an RB two. Yeah, it was back half, you know, running back 24 hours. That’s the RB two. He’s not gonna finish it. rb two territory next year. I think we all agree on that. But will it be as deep a dive as yours? Maybe Robbie’s suggesting? RV fork? I mean, I think there’s still some value there, especially in these deeper leagues. And I think he’ll still, you know, provide you some oomph. But yeah, I’m not sure that he’s, he’s kind of finished RB two territory.

Rumboyz Robbie 12:29
They’re not, they’re not leaving draft a like, yeah, I picked up jd mckissic. Like, that’s not happening. Right. Right,

Kevin 12:35
he gets forgotten. And where I utilized him in a lot in sleeper last year, guys is he had the wide receiver and running back tag. So due to injuries and some situations on a couple different teams I had, I was able to plug him in at receiver and and reap the benefits of that. And kind of carry that through while he had that career year last year. So he’s a forgotten guy, you’ll be able to pick him up late and in a lot of different formats, you’ll probably be able to grab them off the waiver wire like Robbie said, like he’s just not a name that sticks out like Oh, I got a flag this guy like he’s someone I’m checking out. So you know, you can you can sit back. If he’s a guy that you want as a fill in off your bench or something like that. You’ll you’ll be able to grab them in most most cases 11th 12th round, if not later, depending on who you’re drafting with. And if I guess that league knows what they’re looking at.

Alex 13:32
So so if you do go and Tonio Gibson early, and this is a genuine question here, if you invite early, I mean, you know what I’m saying? Do you take mckissic as a handcuff?

Rumboyz Robbie 13:46
No, I mean, you don’t, you don’t really need to because you’ll be able to get them off of waivers. Like I’m telling you, you’re gonna be able to get them all the waivers or you’ll be able to if you if you’re that worried about anything you can trade for for dirt cheap. Like, you know, it’s Yeah, it’s we’re talking about Jamie Kitson.

Alex 14:02
So this isn’t this isn’t a case of where you want to have a piece of the Washington football team presented by FedEx, which I still maintain. It’s how they’re gonna go. Washington football team, you don’t want a piece of a running game unless it’s Antonio Gibson. That’s what I’m getting.

Kevin 14:17
Correct. Yep.

Derek 14:20
Yeah, I still maintain that there’s only a couple of guys out there that you want to handcuff that you want to have that backup role on that Antonio Gibson‘s not that guy, the guy that would fit that profile for me is a running back that is a primary primary workhorse back a guy that’s going to get about 70 to 80% of the share of the work and a dedicated backup that if that guy goes down, you’re going to plug this other guy in that’s going to see a similar workload. I think if Antonio Gibson goes down and jd mckissick is not going to is going to come in for pass pro and they’ll go find a guy to fill in to be the W Thumper in between the tackles

Kevin 15:01
they brought in Lamar Miller for that guy’s like that’s that’s what they brought Lamar Miller in for it’s it’s mom well maybe so but if Gibson goes down he’s the guy who’s gonna get the first and second down work

Rumboyz Robbie 15:13
yeah

Terry McLaurin WR Washington Football Team

Derek 15:14
right so that that right there would be why wouldn’t look to handcuff him is yeah there’s a few guys out there that that will fit that bill and Antonio Gibson is not one of them guys let’s go ahead and move on over into the wide receiver room and a guy that we talked about a little bit earlier Terry McLaurin he finished wide receiver 21 last year 87, interceptions. 134 targets 1118 yards, four touchdowns. Guys your thoughts on Terry McLaurin

Rumboyz Robbie 15:46
you will you will be you’ll be able to serve as a wide receiver one. And I think they keep creeping in so you know that that that that that top pick team. This year I’m confident dropping with me being our RV heavy strategists. I’m confident and rostering Terry Maclaurin as a one. If I can pull off something Sly and get him added to That’s awesome. But I doubt that that’s what

Kevin 16:18
I like Maclaurin a lot this year. Because of Fitzpatrick I faded him a bunch last year because the quarterback position was very uncertain. And you didn’t know what you were getting from week to week. Assuming that Fitzpatrick is the guy and even not if Hi, Nikki. Am I saying that right Robbie? Taylor? Yeah.

Rumboyz Robbie 16:42
I think it goes call Hi, Nikki. Yeah, call Hi, Nikki. So yeah,

Kevin 16:46
so either one. I do like McLaurin more this year. I do think his his target shares going to probably increase because he’s not the only dog in town. Now Samuel will see some of it. But you know, if you can consistently see 1011 maybe even 12 targets a game like he’s gonna produce for you. Um, he only fell in the end zone four times last year. I think that’s pretty low for him. So I expect that number to rebound a little bit. So that’ll help. plus another year in various system, I don’t expect the Washington football team to to be struggling to find their identity so much. You have your quarterback you know who you have as your star running back, that defense is still good. And while you’re not going to have as much garbage time. You know that those garbage time points, I think you’re the efficiencies are going to pick up because, undoubtably there’s gonna be a couple of games and we all know they’re coming. Where Fitzpatrick will throw four picks, like yeah, just written in stone, there is going to be a game where he throws four picks, but he will keep throwing and when they need to play catch up. f ones the guy they’re going to go to to do it. Well.

Alex 17:59
Yeah, usually with that four big game comes up for touchdown performance. That doesn’t matter because it’s four touchdowns in the fourth quarter. But I I’m with you and Kevin, you’re right with, you know, wide receivers, you’re only as good as a quarterback throwing to you. And last year, this was a huge question mark and Washington was, you know, what is the quarterback play going to be? And that is going to affect how you look at these receivers. While Maclaurin is a fantastic talent. You know, running routes doesn’t do you any good if you can’t get the football delivered to you. So I think the issue with Maclaurin this year is finding him at the right spot. When it comes to a redraft. And I think that there’s probably going to be I’m trying to, you know, think out loud here. But I really do I think that there’s going to be maybe a lot of people that will will take him probably around too soon. And I don’t know that that’s you know what you want to do? Granted if he is a wide receiver one he finishes in the top 12. There is no such thing as around too soon with that. But I think that that’s probably what’s going to happen and am I off base there. Do you think I’m off base there?

Kevin 19:19
You have that round? Like the third instead of the fourth?

Alex 19:24
Like the like the fourth instead of the fifth? Nah, he

Kevin 19:28
ain’t going in the fifth.

Rumboyz Robbie 19:29
I’ll grab back. That’s not happening. That’s not happening. Yeah, okay. So

Alex 19:34
so

Kevin 19:36
you could argue somebody goes, Yeah, so what if,

Alex 19:39
what if he so you’re comfortable taking them in the fourth?

Rumboyz Robbie 19:44
Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if he falls, so they’re like, like they you know. Yeah. Like, like,

Alex 19:53
running back running back, wide out wide out.

Rumboyz Robbie 19:57
Yeah, yeah, that pretty much maybe what you got to do Okay,

Derek 20:03
I could I could definitely see that and and get behind that even when you look at last year like one of the things that I like looking for when you’re talking about, you know, having that first wide receiver on the team is a guy that’s going to demand targets and get opportunity. And Terry Maclaurin is a guy that will do that. You look at last season, one of his lowest games that he had as far as a target to go was six targets, which there’s a lot of receivers out there that you could be drafting to try and put in that same range that that’s going to be their high watermark is about six targets a game, Terry Maclaurin under the previous, you know, with Alex Smith and Dwayne Haskins, and kind of that that quarterback revolving door that they had a little bit there last year, he the lowest target amount he saw was still six, so I could get behind that. And I think that you’ll see that consistently around eight or nine targets per game with Ryan Fitzpatrick under center. Ryan Fitzpatrick is the guy that’s going to be able to push the ball down the field. And that’s where Terry Maclaurin really thrives, is being able to catch that ball out in space and get down the field. And just like going back to our blind player comparison, he’s a guy that can just run away from folks and has that kind of speed. So if you can get him the ball in space, let him move and, and hit him open, which is what Ryan Fitzpatrick likes to do. I see some very big things that I’ll see an uptick on touchdowns. And for me, it’s really going to depend on who else really kind of around that that deal. But he’s a guy that I could absolutely see putting on my team and about the fourth round.

Rumboyz Robbie 21:32
And then I’m in that cold so

Kevin 21:34
so current ADP just to wrap it up his current ADP is is 4.02. So he’s going about 38th overall, something like that. So I’m taking that in a heartbeat, because there’s guys going ahead of him just looking at that I’d gladly have f1 over like I’ll take Terry Maclaurin over Mike Evans right now. There’s just too much going on in that Tampa Bay offense. I’ll take Terry Maclaurin is the clear cut option. Julio Jones, who knows what Julio Jones you’re gonna get. And even if you do, he has a tendency to never fall in the end zone. So I’ll take you through on my side, not the guy who’s been dinged up with injuries, like just random things like that every every player, every you know, fantasy, GM needs to make that decision for themselves. But this is where don’t get caught up in the names of these guys. Like and we’re all guilty of it at one point or another, but realize what system they’re in how they’re going to be utilized, like, what their target share and market share within that team is going to be because really, I think that’s Dan, it’s at least to happen for Maclaurin if not a full round. Like I fully expect him to be a guy that’s gone by middle of the third in every single draft. I mean.

Curtis Samuel WR Washington Football Team

Derek 22:53
Yeah, I would absolutely agree with that. Let’s go ahead and move on to the newly acquired Curtis Samuel coming over in free agency, the Curtis Samuel finished as wide receiver 25 last year, 77 receptions, 97 targets 851 yards, three touchdowns through the air, but he also had 41 rushing to rush attempts, 200 yards and two touchdowns on the ground over there in Carolina last year. So your thoughts on Curtis Samuel,

Rumboyz Robbie 23:22
but the key is going to be possibly the exact same thing. Like I’m not I’m not I’m not expecting him to do much better than then that I’m but I’m also not expecting like like, like, anything like significantly worse. I mean, I get as a different coaching staff, and different coaching regime, the whole wide receiver record is going to be different. It’s really going to be Terry Curtis, and then like, you may see or it’ll be it sounds like they’re they’re they’re really trying to give Adam Humphries a second chance. Or I guess a third chance, whatever. You know, so I mean, Adam Humphries really toss into the fold. So I mean, I could say he could he could maybe do the exact same thing. And I’m not I’m not threatened by it either by currently rosmarinic Lauren, so yeah.

Kevin 24:15
Curtis Samuel is a guy,

24:17
he’s,

Kevin 24:20
I guess he’s one of my sleepers, his average draft positions, you know, in the 10th round, like He’s, uh, he’s going on about 100 and 10th overall. So Kurdistan was the guy that I’m going after, like he is a guy that I want on my bench to start the season, we’re just gonna see how he’s doing fill him in as a flex, maybe he ends up in that wide receiver two spots, because I do think he has the ability to to finish inside the top 30. So that wide receiver to wide receiver three kind of fringe area, they’re a little bit but if I’m getting them all the way down in the 10th, that’s value. That is that is what I’ll

Rumboyz Robbie 24:57
take

Kevin 24:58
so I like Curtis Samuel a lot. I think he’s very shifty. He has no problem doing some of the dirty work and the underneath routes. He’s going to take pressure off of Terry Maclaurin. And then throughout the season, you’re going to have defenses play this game, right, like, all right. Are we still are we still going to roll coverage over to Terry Maclaurin make sure he didn’t beat as deep. Fitzpatrick smart enough. He’s been around this league long enough that there’s times where he forces the ball, but there’s other times where he’s extremely efficient. And he just finds the open guy. I mean, look at the vontae Parker demonte. Parker was trailer trash in the fantasy football world until he played with Ryan Fitzpatrick and then all of a sudden Dante Parker shows up and everybody’s going, Oh, my God, and then the next season comes and now you’re bouncing back and forth between Fitz magic and two. And Parker goes back down into the shithole. Like Curtis Samuel can be the fantasy star. Like Parker was not the same numbers. He’s not the same guy. But the one that you draft super late that kind of comes out of nowhere that can help your team win games down the stretch. I love her Samuel,

Rumboyz Robbie 26:05
I understand completely. I like I like that take I agree with that. Pretty much Tammy verbatim.

Alex 26:15
I think Curtis Samuels best asset will be Brian Fitzpatrick and the fact that he will throw the football because Ryan Fitzpatrick will throw the football. I think Samuel is going to benefit immensely from from Ryan Fitzpatrick. And so that to me is a guy that you know, Kevin, you, you you put the label on him and I totally agree with it. He is a sleeper and he will he will help in that he will be a contributor on your fantasy football team if

Rumboyz Robbie 26:42
you get him between in between now and when you guys are you know getting ready for draft season. Shout draft night out kitten Ohio, make sure you guys get your tickets now. Come party with your boy. What what? Yeah, I’ll be hosting. I’ll be one of the hosts for that. But Nah, um, yeah. Like, like, between now and then like, I don’t I don’t see his ATP like mass where they like swaying upward. So I mean, yeah. Well, it’s a page.

Derek 27:10
Yeah, I like it. Because he is he is a guy that kind of gets forgotten about even though when you look at the back half of last season, he was a fantasy stud over there, really putting up a ton of production there. I liked the fact that he goes back to Washington on this one, for the fact that he gets to be kind of that clear cut number two guy on the team. But even more so from the standpoint that he goes back to the staff that drafted him and the team, you know, the guys that really saw something of him coming out. And so I liked that fit for him as well. He will find ways to get him utilize in the game, whether it’s passing, whether it’s running, whether it’s, you know, whatever that looks like they’re going to find ways to get the ball in the hands of him. But here’s kind of an interesting question for the group in the panel here. When you look at it right we’ve we’ve kind of established here that Terry Maclaurin is a fourth round guy, Curtis Emile’s a 10th. Round guy. Obviously, if you’re drafting you’re probably not going to draft them both to have on your own. No. So here’s my question for him. factoring in ADP, who would you rather have for 2021? Would you rather have Terry Maclaurin with a fourth round pick? Or Curtis Samuel with a 10th? round pick on your roster? Oh,

28:24
ward.

Derek 28:28
Two, I think I’m the other way around, I think I’d rather go with the, the 10th. Because I think Curtis Samuel is going to be a guy that easily performs inside of wide receiver to territory, and I probably see him you’re right around that 20 mark there. So I can get a ton of value back there. And I can go out and get a guy that’s probably going to be similar to, you know, the similar finish to Terry Maclaurin, just kind of looking at it. So I could go either way. But I think I’d actually probably lien Curtis Samuel just because of the ADP in the app before and the way that he’ll outperform it.

Rumboyz Robbie 29:01
I could see that I can see that side of it to our respective.

Kevin 29:05
I think for me a lot of it’s just going to determine how my how my draft is set up through that

29:10
point.

Kevin 29:11
Right. How is my roster construction, look through the first three rounds and and you know, if I absolutely need to kind of a game changing receiver. Yeah, I’m going Maclaurin in the fourth and I’m okay with that. Like I can absolutely live on that hill. And I’m okay. If there’s something else maybe I you know, split it up, you know, maybe you grab a Justin Jefferson and the third so you’d maybe you don’t feel like you need that receiver or maybe you went something was DK DK in the second round, if that’s what you want to do. And so you don’t necessarily have to have Maclaurin maybe there’s some running back. There. Maybe you can see in a swift or an arm, you know, and Alan Robinson there and grab Samuel later.

Rumboyz Robbie 29:57
See, I’ve always tried to try to construct The perfect team that the best way possible. I’m not going to try and get cute if I can get make more like if this situation when I draft I’m dropping due to the water. I’m being watered up the whole time. You know, mine clear. Ready Ready to go. And yeah, Ben I, yeah. If I could get MC more on, I’m gonna get more I’m not gonna get cubic Oh, well, like I could pass on him and maybe you know, swing back and get, you know Curtis Samuel na f1 baby all day

Alex 30:34
I think I think would be a best player available with this with this question. If the question is I understand it is you either get Maclaurin in the fourth round, or you get Curtis Samuel in the 10th. Like there’s one or two like you. Yeah, I think I would lean towards Samuel in the 10th. I just think that there’s there’s, there’s other value and Derek to your point, it’s a guy that I think is going to finish higher than what his draft position is. Even if it’s even if his ADP moves up into like, you know, eight, nine, I still think that you’re going to get a guy that that outperforms that so I’m I think I’d be more comfortable drafting Curtis Samuel later than the corn early.

Derek 31:19
Okay, Alex, I’m not gonna lie. It makes you makes me a little nervous that you just agreed with me on that one. But yeah,

Alex 31:23
nice. Nice.

Derek 31:28
So, actually, that brings an interesting question when y’all were going through they’re talking. Alan Robinson is right around the same ADP if I’m not mistaken right now for as what Terry Maclaurin is going.

Rumboyz Robbie 31:40
I mean, I would I would take Alan Robinson. Okay. Well, actually, no, that’s

Alex 31:48
not. That’s, that’s on the quarterback at that point. It really, really depends on which quarterback do you think is going to get him the ball more? And believe me trust Andy Dalton to get to get the ball to Alan Robinson. receiver. That’s true. We saw that with AJ Green.

Derek 32:08
And this might be the best quarterback that Allen Robinson‘s played with

Alex 32:12
Hey, you bite your tongue. No defense there. For me. It’s

Kevin 32:17
probably league preference, right? If we’re going PPR I think I’m leaning out Robinson. If it’s if it’s a half point or a standard League, I think f1 might is probably the play there. You have a little bit more, you know, big game upside. But if I’m getting that full point perception. I do think Alan Robinson will probably eek eek out ahead of Terry Maclaurin. Okay.

Derek 32:40
I like it guys. Just say a teaser. You’re probably see that question on sports me. So download the app, get get sports me app and come come battle that one out with us. I think that’s one that we’ll have to put up there. So any, any desire to talk about any of the other wide receivers in the

33:00
Washington? Oh, music related? Oh, absolutely. Right.

Alex 33:08
That’s how much I’m paying attention to wide receivers three and four at the Washington football team to see

Rumboyz Robbie 33:13
whenever everyone asks that everyone asked that those two are laid out like you know, Wikipedia is out there, right? Yeah, no, they’re not. Oh, sorry. I’m sorry. I I it’s my It’s me. It’s like a logical thinker. I’m like, I’m like yeah, like no Wikipedia that one bro. I noticed I said Wikipedia, not Google that showed how old I am.

Logan Thomas TE Washington Football Team

Derek 33:47
Alrighty, well, let’s go ahead and move on over to the tight end room with no real desire to talk about Adam Humphrey Cam Sims or Steve Sims as the other Washington football team wide receivers they’re so Logan Thomas last year, tied in number 672 receptions 110 targets 670 yards six touchdowns guys your thoughts on Logan Thomas

Rumboyz Robbie 34:11
Hill entitled seven because Kyle Pitts is going to bump them down one slot but for the most part I think that lives inside and landscape garden stays very similar to what it looked like you know just overall just that that position grouping and just those rankings in general you know, of course you know, barring any injuries in any of those guys you know, unfortunately we only want all those guys to be healthy. But I mean Logan I think pitchers mature you can where you can you can draft them you know if you don’t get one of the big three. Oh, Waller killed Kelsey. And if that’s in the best case, I’m perfectly fine with rockin with loving toddlers, especially in redraft format. I mean, dynasty you’re going to end up eventually having To replace an old tidy but you have these guys don’t really boss up until they get older anyway so that’s what you’re dealing with when you’re you know you’re Rockaway we live with the tight end position. So I’m uncomfortable with it

Kevin 35:16
I like Logan Thomas, he kind of came out of nowhere right finally blossomed and showed his ability to catch the football last season. So he’s a guy that I think a lot of people are gonna overlook. Quite frankly, a lot of people don’t know jack squat about him. So they’re just gonna be looking at a ranking chart and going yeah, this guy looks all right, like he’s next best available, but you’re getting a guy who’s better than that and maybe, you know, maybe you’re not gonna see as much usage in the passing game with Curtis Samuel being there. But on the flip side, Brian Fitzpatrick does utilize tight ends so he’s not going to disappear. Six Six to 50 like he is a big body guy who can run the back of the end zone and box out. So he’s a very viable asset and I have no problem if I’m waiting a little bit longer on tight end pass the Evan Ingram’s pass the Hunter Henry‘s and grabbing a Logan Thomas right before you kind of get into the Auster, Austin Hooper area. Yeah, I

Alex 36:27
think I think with Logan Thomas, you know, as we have an I keep referring to the tight end tiers that we do, which which probably probably update those after, after a while here. But I think with him, he is solidly in that second tier. But you know, I, I guess for me, Fitzpatrick is a good quarterback Fitzpatrick will find the the open guy will whoever that is. And he will throw the football. So I think he’s going to touch up just a little bit from from what we saw last year. For Logan Thomas, but you know, I’m looking at some of these tight ends around him. And, you know, would I rather have a gronk? Or a Logan? Thomas? I think that’s that’s a tough question. or, or, or a Johnny Smith or Logan? Thomas? I think those are very those are, you know, I think those are kind of where you’re going to see those guys kind of finish.

Rumboyz Robbie 37:36
I mean, we are talking about a position where between like, Titan three and like tiny 20s. Like, well, yeah, separation is like, yeah, it wasn’t Yeah, so I it doesn’t matter really, like I wouldn’t, because it’s it like, I’m not the one that Titan is the one position that I’m like, like, like, like, okay, with just grabbing whoever, like I might as well just start streaming Titans, you know, that might be my new thing. That’s your streaming site.

Alex 38:03
That is a strategy.

Derek 38:04
That’s not a bad one. So the, because you’re right down there, once you get past, you know, kind of those top tier guys, there’s a lot of a lot of variability out there. And for the most part, most tight ends are touchdown dependent, when it comes down to it. So you see that constant when we’re talking about these tight ends, and going through these rankings, and really looking at that, that the guys that finished in the top 12, that tight in one in the back half, really fell into the endzone, you know, at least once every other game or once every third game type of thing. And a lot of times the yards didn’t necessarily play that big of a factor into it. Logan Thomas was a little bit different in that aspect, because of the fact that he was heavily featured in the passing offense last year, and was a heavily targeted guy. You look at it several of the games, especially the back half of the year, where you’re he had several finishes inside the top, top 10, top five, even where he was targeted, you know, 1512 times a game. He was definitely chewing up some targets there. But I see that continuing a lot similar to and to kind of bounce back and answer your question. I would think I’d rather have Logan Thomas than john smith this year. Alex, simply from the standpoint that I think Logan Thomas will see more opportunity. Then Johnny will. You’ll like we talked about when we when we discussed the Patriots a couple weeks ago, john who is going to be a guy that’s going to be his fantasy position is going to be touchdown dependent. Again, I think Connor Henry in that situation is going to get more of the receiving work. And with Logan Thomas, you have the ability to kind of marry both of them together. I don’t know that I necessarily see Kyle Pitts overtaking him this year. And that has more to do with the fact that when tight ends come into the league. They typically take that two or three years to really kind of blossom out there. And I see the similar similar learning curve for Kyle Pitts this year as well. So yeah I’m probably gonna put Logan Thomas in my rankings when it’s all said and done slightly above Kyle Pitts

Kevin 40:07
to the top five tight ends last year were streamed right right, Bobby tonyan and Yep, Logan Thomas Right. Yeah. So, to Robbie’s point like don’t be afraid if you missed your guide don’t don’t reach don’t freak out. Back. Most of these guys from eight through 15 eight through 20 are a dime a dozen so don’t be afraid if you have to stream tight and you don’t have to have you know one of the top three guys or or feel like you need to make a splash to do all right like you can absolutely pay attention and do just fine at the tight end spot if you’re not getting Kelsey or Waller or kettle

Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Washington Football Team

Derek 40:51
Absolutely. Alrighty guys, let let’s go ahead and move on over to the quarterback. And Ryan Fitzpatrick is now in town their quarterback 28th last year down there Miami was really kind of a you know, relief bullpen pitcher it seemed like towards the back half of the year but 183, completions 267 targets 2091 yards 13 touchdowns eight interceptions, guys your thoughts on Ryan Fitzpatrick awesome.

Rumboyz Robbie 41:25
I’ll do mine super super quick because I’m about to run to the front door grab his pizza really quick. Ryan Fitzpatrick I think that he’s going to he’s definitely going to be be a top 24 guy I could maybe see him or go q be wanting he will end up being 20 I don’t mind having him as my key to and super flex and we we’ve talked about you know consistently throughout every other player that we’ve covered. I’m I’m rocking with where we were with bits magic is like up to like in half and while my superflex roster y’all I want to get this piece and I’ll be right back so you can talk to me. Yeah, thank you guys. Sorry.

Derek 42:17
Already what what thoughts you got on Orion fits magic there.

Alex 42:23
That’s actually I just to piggyback off or Robbie said, I think that’s that’s where Ryan Fitzpatrick‘s value is, is that QB two on a superflex League? Where you know, it’s not going to be bad, it’s gonna it might burn you one or two weeks with the interceptions but you’re gonna get you’re gonna get what you get out of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Like that. We know we know what what he is we know what type of quarterback he is. We know that, you know, maybe he might be influenced a little bit by Ron Rivera’s coaching, but I still think that’s that’s where the value for Fitzpatrick cases as a QB two in a super flex league. And truth be told, I’m not sure that I would do it.

Kevin 43:09
I’m all for it because you can get him so stinking late, like again, value, value value value, especially if you’re playing this super flex league. If you’re able to wait on quarterback and get a guy you know who’s maybe not even in the top 24 drafted quarterbacks because of some of these new guys coming in and everybody wants to make their splash. sit back and wait load up at skill position then take Fitzpatrick I think Rob is being fairly conservative. I think Fitzpatrick could end up inside the top 15. So yeah, I think the weapons are there. I think, you know, his experiences there. And again, I’ve said this a couple different times. And I know we’ve all kind of said it. Ryan Fitzpatrick‘s first year in an office is his best year in an office. So I’m okay with being on the Ryan Fitzpatrick hype train for this season. Like I think he’s gonna do a lot of good things. I think Rivera brought him in because he knows he’s a veteran. He can trust him while kind of coaching Taylor Hi, Nikki. A little bit but these are probably the best is probably the best group of weapons that Fitzpatrick has played with this in his career. And I know I’m rolling through like 12 different teams to try and figure out all the guys that he’s played with but I’m perfectly fine with this. Because Patrick is a solid QB to with with he’s gonna give you some QB one weeks and realistically, I can see him finish qb 15 for the season. And it wouldn’t shock me by any stretch.

Derek 44:43
No, no. And when you look back at it before they made the shift to a right after the bye week last year, Ryan Fitzpatrick is finishes on the week were 3211 610 313 so he was a guy that was consistent up there and delivering for you week in week out for fantasy that very first week when they played New England, yeah, throw that one out out of the mix there. And it’s an overall very consistent top 12 quarterback type of week, just weekly finish every week there. And that’s a guy that I could see again him delivering a ton of those types of performances this year. You see all riverboat Ron, they’re like the gamble and like to play a little bit. And I could see them, you know, again, going to set up this offense in a manner that’s going to allow Ryan Fitzpatrick to really succeed and that’s pushing the ball down the field, as well as the fact that he’s got some of these guys that he can check down to if he needs to, and still be very successful. So I think you’re right, I think he’s got a ton of talent around him. And a aidells going to be a very fun team to watch there. So kind of a quick question for y’all. So little bit of a almost trivia, but I’m not going to give the answer away. Ryan Fitzpatrick in all of the years and teams that he has been on has never made the playoffs. Couple that with the fact that the NFC East has not had a repeating divisional champion going back over the past decade plus. So the question I have for y’all is Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Washington football team. Is this going to be are they going to be able to make the playoffs as a first question second one, are they going to be able to repeat as divisional champions

Rumboyz Robbie 46:29
they will make the playoffs they repeat as divisional champs and it’s Patrick will be will be a pro bowler

Kevin 46:38
you heard it here first.

Alex 46:43
That sounds like a fan. Trying to wish that into the ethos right there. Well, not out there in the universe.

46:49
I’m halfway I’m sorry.

Kevin 46:52
I’m a third of the way there with them. I think Washington finds a way back into the playoffs. That defense is freaking good y’all like do not sleep on Washington’s defense I that that it will come down real close towards the end the season with that divisional race I think Washington might end up a half game back to the division but like I said wildcard you know a wildcard performance there and and we’ll be we’ll be just fine. We’ll pop back in it and see see if they’re able to build off the success the excuse me success that they had towards the tail end of last season, but yeah, I don’t know about pro bowler. I’m not that I’m not that proud yet guys. I’m not that proud yet. There’s a lot of quarterbacks in the NFC.

Derek 47:40
Although if he’s a pro bowler, I think both 15 and 20 are too light have finishes out there for sure. Like he’s a pro bowler that’s that’s gonna put him easily top 10 Fantasy type of type of finish there. So be very interesting to see. And there’ll be a lot of fun to watch this team. I have a feeling because you’re right last year, that defense really, really good. I think that you’re gonna see again, a very scary defense out there. And the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is in this offense and the changes that made it it’s gonna be fun to watch.

Kevin 48:12
him Fitzpatrick’s. just fun to have on your fantasy team. Like, yeah, he’s not the sexy. But I’m telling you, if anybody, anybody who has had Ryan Fitzpatrick on their fantasy team, there’s just that extra level of excitement because you’d never quite know what you’re gonna get like, he has good baselines, you know, he’s efficient enough. But man, you get in that tight game, and you know, that he could absolutely win it and blow the doors off of it. Or he could throw four exceptions and just nail your coffin. But that’s exciting, right? It’s part of the game. It’s part of the fun, it’s why we tune in watch, play, engage all those things. So you know if nothing else, he’s he’s a fun player to have on your team because you’re always engaged on what he’s going to do and whether it’s going to help you or hurt you.

Alex 49:00
Okay, here’s here’s the question for the group. Then we’ll take we’ll take the current Washington football team quarterback, or a previous Washington football team quarterback, which one would you rather have Fitzpatrick or cousins

49:14
Fitzpatrick

Alex 49:17
for the entertainment value.

Derek 49:19
This makeup I like this team makeup. I like Fitzpatrick and how he fits into that one.

Kevin 49:24
The same freakin guy.

49:26
I know, right? Like,

Kevin 49:30
you’re the same guy. They’re guys that go later in drafts, they go undervalued. They consistently put up we were talking about this last week with the with the Vikings. turnovers as a guy that gets drafted super late but always finds a way to sneak into the top 12 like he might have a couple really dogshit weeks like that is possible, but he sneaks back in there so I’m probably gonna say cousins, but since Patrick’s not too far behind. Aliens, my pizza and we’ve got here Hurry up. Robbie’s getting hungry. All right. All right. So

Derek 50:03
Taylor, hi, Nikki is on the roster. They showed some flashes towards the very end of the season and the playoffs. I’m gonna say right now I don’t think he’s got a ton of fantasy intrigue this coming year. But what are your thoughts for Taylor? Hi, Nikki.

Rumboyz Robbie 50:23
This is a guide that if anything happens to two bits magic thing, grab them off away or wire, you know, or like, like, and I’m talking like a V, like, we know that he could be banished, we know that he can be pulled at any moment. Like, we know the Fitz magic story. So I mean, with that being said, and with that being stated. I’m not I’m not I’m not gonna waste the draft pick in the draft who grabbed him. But I think that, you know, he can still do something. He has an amazing story from, you know, getting drafted, brought row to Carolina and then doing the xfl thing. And then we all saw how that turned out. Vince McMahon, you played us all. But yeah, so I mean, like, we I’m excited, I’m excited for the future, you know, they’ll take over after after fits, fits magic leaves, or either if we dropped a guy this year, you know, we’ll see how it works out.

Kevin 51:25
I’d agree with that. I think I think Taylor had a really good run. He stepped up when he needed to in that wild card game. And very admirably he was a extremely competent quarterback for being just kind of tossed out there and say, oh, by the way, you get to go up against TB. 12. Like, here you go, buddy. Our playoff hopes rests on your shoulders. And you know what? He didn’t back down. He stepped up to the challenge. Like the kid has some charisma, so good for him. It’ll be interesting to see how much of a quarterback competition it really is in the offseason. There you go. Um, so I agree with Robbie. I expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to be the starter. So Taylor Heinicke. He doesn’t hold instant fantasy value. But you know, if something happens it he’s absolutely a guy that you’re going to want to add to to your team. If you’re struggling for that second QB, or if you’re just, you know, if you have the roster space, and you’re trying to just block someone else out, you know, snap, grab them and stagger or stash them away and tell someone else to pay up if they need him.

Rumboyz Robbie 52:33
Yep. I’m really good at that plenty of times.

Alex 52:37
I’m really curious what the long term solution there is in Washington, because we know that Fitzpatrick is a rental at best is probably the best way to put it. I mean, he’s not a long term solution there. And I don’t think that that hierarchies a long term solution there. So I’m really curious as to what Washington does. Long term for fantasy purposes. hierarchy is is you know, nothing as far as I’m concerned.

Kevin 53:05
Gardner Minshew.

Alex 53:09
That’s an interesting that’s an interesting thought. That is an interesting thought it very well could happen. I just I’m not sure. Yeah,

Kevin 53:18
I don’t have a swear I’m just spitting that’s fun. I wouldn’t be surprised minchie is going to be going somewhere right Trevor? Lawrence is gonna be the guy in Jacksonville so maybe maybe that’s a situation that hey, we know that the rental let’s get some younger guy in here who has a little bit of starting experience is shown fairly decent and see what we can do to continue to develop them.

Derek 53:44
There we go. Well, guys, any final thoughts for the listeners?

Kevin 53:51
draft Day is coming.

Alex 53:52
I cannot wait. I cannot wait. It’s gonna be chaos

Rumboyz Robbie 53:55
guys for listening. And I love each and every single

Kevin 54:03
crap we got to the show. Robbie, we love you. I’m not sure splitting out on us a little bit with the internet connection. That’s okay. But we appreciate you coming on. We love the run boys network. Props to you guys for everything that you do day in and day out and expanding the Empire. So if you want to plug your socials one more time so that way everyone can get a hold of you

Rumboyz Robbie 54:24
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Kevin 54:53
dilly dilly Thanks, Ben.

Derek 54:55
Thanks Robbie. We appreciate your taking the time and coming on. It’s always a blast. And a pleasure to To talk some fantasy football shot for with you. So guys, I do believe that that’s going to wrap up yet another episode of the good old boys fantasy football podcast. Make sure you’re hitting us up on our socials instagram twitter, facebook at good old boys FF we’ve got the website for you. goodoldboysff.com and the YouTube channel for your pleasure as well for Kevin and Alex. I’m Derek. Have a good one. Be safe. Nice.