Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football Analysis

Intro 00:08
You’re listening to the good old boys fantasy football podcast. Now here’s your host, Kevin, Derek and Alex.

Derek 00:17
Alrighty, welcome in ladies and gentlemen to another episode of the Good Old Boys Fantasy Football Podcast. I am Derek and I’m joined as always, by your co host, Kevin and Alex. Guys, how we doing tonight?

Kevin 00:29
We are doing great. It is a post NFL Draft. And so that means it is dynasty, rookie draft season. And Holy crap, I have so many of these things going on right now that I can barely keep my head straight. I found a lot of things out some things I thought I knew. And I was right. Some things I thought I knew. And I was definitely wrong. But it’s been fun. And other than that, I just, I’m happy to be doing something fantasy football besides just talking about it each week, and actually being able to draft and build lineups here a little bit to at least start the season.

Alex 01:08
And it does make it a little bit more fun when you finally know where these rookies are landing or have landed, I guess through the events of the final weekend in April. Yeah, it’s I actually have like started to turn down invitations to leagues because it’s hard to keep your head straight on some of these. And honestly, one of the things that that drove me nuts when I first get started getting really, really into fantasy football and playing in multiple leagues was how much I found myself, rooting for guys to be successful when it was for me, but then going up against those guys in a different league and then hoping that they wouldn’t have a goodly good week. So it’s it’s definitely one of those you got to find your balance, got to make sure that what you’ve done is, is just enough to keep up with things. But we just participated in a dynasty startup, I’m a co owner of a team with Derek Kevin is also in, in that league with a bunch of the guys that if you go back and watch or listen to our draft special that we did a bunch of us cut together and said, hey, let’s put a league together. So we just did a dynasty startup in that. And Derek, Derek and I co owning a team, we we employed a pretty fun strategy that I think is a pretty reasonable strategy for people if they’re in a dynasty startup, and if they’re in a league like ours, that this one, I guess where it is in crazy, crazy amount of draft picks, I think we had 31 rounds of the draft. And of course, this was all after the NFL Draft. So there wasn’t a separate rookie draft or anything. But we employed a pretty fun strategy. And that was after about the what was it 19th or 20th pick that we made. And we had a pretty solid lineup, you know, guys that we think we’re going to contribute and be contributors for a few years. We just started drafting rookies, just taking flyers on rookies, because either they hit and it’s gravy, and you’ve got this guy that’s really awesome on your team for a long time to come, or at least for the life of his rookie contract for five years. And or he doesn’t, and you’re no worse for the wear. I mean, really at that point. It’s just take it or leave it and we’re hoping that we can take more than we leave.

Derek 03:33
Absolutely. It’s I’m here for a good time, not necessarily a long time type of thing. So definitely worked out there. And I love the fact because when we were going through and we could then move some guys to taxis. It wasn’t one of those that we were like, Oh my gosh, how are we going to split this up and manage that? I know that that’s a that’s an issue. Sometimes when you go through some of these dynasty startups and all that you draft too many vets and not enough rookies. And so your taxi squad looks a little lean sometimes. But no, we really about round 20 we just started throwing darts at at some rookies, and it was a lot of fun.

Alex 04:09
And I mean, honestly, at any point when you know, you’re not drafting guys who were taken in the first second, maybe third rounds of the rookie draft. I think there’s all there’s, there’s some question marks around some of those dudes, and especially some of the guys that you know, were maybe good enough to be drafted. It just didn’t work out the way that they heard their name get called. But he just you just start throwing darts. And it was it was actually kind of really fun to just look and be like, Yeah, sure. Let’s, let’s try that guy.

04:38
Let’s try that.

Alex 04:39
Yeah, just, you know, I’m not sure that anybody else really in that league kind of picked up on what we were doing. Kevin Kevin said he didn’t really pick up on what we were doing. He’s picking two slots in front of us in two slots behind us. So we had the turnaround pick. So it was a it’s a pretty fun strategy, I think and we’ll see if it pays off, I guess.

Derek 04:57
Yeah, yeah.

Kevin 05:00
It’s the downside of having so many of these, so many of these drafts at once, right? Like, I’m hopping in and out of so many of these, trying to catch up a trap chat. So trade offers where we’re at in the draft, like what’s kind of coming up and what I’m, I’m looking to do with the players available that I don’t pay as much attention here in these first rookie drafts, as I do look kind of later on when they’re more spread out. And you can really analyze the board what people are doing. Find a way to maybe, you know, intentionally snipe someone so that way you can then turn around and offer it up for trade fodder and, and piss someone off in the process, which is always fun. So it’s challenging to say the least on top of a real work job and everything all right, your day gets compacted really quick.

Alex 05:51
We definitely did a dry draft at least two players that we thought were going to be hot commodities among at least some of the other members in the in that league. And so there was definitely some thought process put into that and we actually sniped Carson Wentz away from a bunch of guys that didn’t pull the trigger on I’m sure we probably drafted in maybe around too early. But by the sounds of it, he wouldn’t have been there when it was our turn to go again. So

Kevin 06:19
he’s gonna be there. There were

Alex 06:20
no guys. So we might have your phone. We might have read a little bit. Yeah, we might have reached just to touch but I think it was it was the right move at the right time. And now, now we know that he is a coveted player. So asking price just went up just a little bit more. Should we decide to move off of him? And there was actually one time where Derek and I were talking and we predicted who you were going to take Kevin actually Derek just called it out. said there’s no way that he doesn’t go with Who was it?

Derek 06:52
I think it was James Connor was was that pic there?

Alex 06:55
Yeah, we’re like there’s no way he doesn’t take James Connor. Sure enough, James Connor off the board.

Derek 07:01
That that actually became my funnest game going through there when we were going back and forth. And we’d make a pic. And Alex is you know, going, Hey, maybe we go this route? And I’m like, No, no, that guy’s not making it through Kevin twice before. So if we want that guy, we’re gonna have to take him here. But no, that was that was a lot of fun being able to kind of know the room a little bit as we started going through that and started being able to kind of text each other back and forth going, Hey, this guy i think is going here. And I think this guy’s going here. And and we started getting pretty good at being able to figure that one out. So it was a lot of fun. And yeah, it was definitely a great group of folks in that league. So it’ll be a lot of fun for years to come, I have a feeling. But guys, we do have a very awesome show for you. Tonight, we’re going to talk about some Chicago Bears. We’re going to talk about some NFL news going on. We have a couple weeks before the NFL Draft, we did our kind of rookie mock draft as far as dynasty setup was was gonna go. So we’re gonna go through that and do another two round rookie mock on that and kind of compare back and forth. And we may be talking a little bit about some dynasty trade targets, kind of focusing on running backs. And you know, who could potentially be like a bylo type of candidate and who you need to target and go get for fantasy this year. So let’s go ahead and just kind of hop right on over into it with the Chicago Bears there. And the Chicago Bears made the draft a little bit interesting when they decided to move up from 2211 to take Justin Fields as the quarterback, but we’re going to go ahead and start where we always do and that is over in the running back room and David Montgomery put up an electric season for y’all last year. Finish number four overall for the running backs. And he did that with 247 rushing attempts, 1070 yards, eight rushing touchdowns with 54 receptions. 64 targets for an additional 438 and two through the air. Guys, what are your thoughts on David Montgomery?

David Montgomery RB Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Kevin 09:11
David, David Montgomery showed through last year like the bears, the bears attach their wagon to him even even when they were struggling a little bit trying to gain or maintain elite at times throughout the season. But they really took a step back and realize look, we’re not going to ask Nick Foles or Mitch Rybicki to do everything for us. So we need our defense to play very well. And we need our run game to be on point. The defense played okay. But the run game was on point and David Montgomery had a phenomenal excuse me a phenomenal end to the season like he was on a real tear there. They kept feeding the ball they realize the more you get them, the better he is late in games got involved a little bit in the passing game due to a treat colon injury. So that probably contributed to a little bit of the usage. But overall Montgomery, Montgomery is gonna get drafted, like a running back three or a flex type. But I don’t know that he’s gonna fall that far outside of it guys like he finished, he finished in the top eight, I think it’s you know, even if he falls down a little bit and loses some of those receptions, I still think Montgomery can be in the top 14 of running backs and be that upper echelon running back to for you. As long as you understand what you’re getting, he’s not super flashy. He doesn’t have the big name yet, but he’s a very young guy. He has a lot of tread left on his tires. And the bears are now going to be developing a rookie quarterback. So who’s your best friend tight ends and running backs so that way the quarterback doesn’t have to do everything. I like David Montgomery.

Alex 11:05
I like him because of what he showed last year in the passing game. And especially if they’re going to have this transition, I still think that the bears will employ Andy Dalton, at least for the first part of the season. They’re paying him $10 million, you might as well get something out of them. And let Justin Fields kind of come along. I think there will be a point at some point during the season where that changes, but I don’t think that David Montgomery sees a seismic shift in his usage once that change happens, especially on the ground but but probably more so in the in the running game. or excuse me in the passing game. I mean, he’s done. He’s been pretty dang consistent over his two seasons. He’s had 242 rushes his rookie year 247 rushes last year 189 rushing rushing yards last year got over the 1000 yard mark this past year and no you’re like are you way behind

Derek 12:07
I am way behind apparently my bed

Alex 12:11
your cameras freaking out too. And any had eight eight rushing touchdowns last year to the six that he had his rookie season. So he has been you know, as far as you can can see for two years the model of consistency and he showed that he can be a weapon in the past game last year he has added that element and proven that he has that element of his game. So I think it would be I think if you’re able to get David Montgomery as a running back three or a flex option might be laughing all the way to the bank with your fantasy football championship with your trophy and your cash in hand. Because he’s he’s good enough to be a redneck one whether or not they still allow him to be used as such, and and get him the touches that he needs to make that happen is to be seen. But I think that David Gumtree is is a gem of a running back in fantasy football.

Derek 13:17
Yeah, there’s a few things there that when you look at it from you know, his rookie season the last season, he’s a volume based runner, right? He gets a ton of touches, make some make some hay out of it. Yeah, he was little over four yards, a rush attempt last year. So it was efficient when he got the carries to it. But some of the things that concern me is the fact that we saw to Rico and go out very early on in the season and when to recon is out there he is going to take up a lot of that passing work. I know that Montgomery showed some some chops with that this past year, but I don’t know that that continues this year. But you’re right he is a guy that right now you can get for a value in fantasy dress because a lot of people are looking past him. You know, to the point where you there’s there’s very few times in fantasy history that you can look at a guy that finishes running back for on the season. That came into the season as the proclaim starter finished it as the starter is the claim starter for the next year and is being drafted not in necessarily the first round type of thing. So and that’s without them necessarily adding another piece in the offseason, whether that’s through the draft are signing a big time free agent bringing them in. But some of the things that helped him out last year was really from week 12 on and when you looked at week 12 on he played the sixth worst defense against the run the worst defense the second worst, the fifth worst, the third worst, the six worst from weeks 12 to 17. And that greatly contributed to that that finish where he went you know 717196 the finishes for so really kind of cool. That thing out he definitely wants some people some fantasy championships last year really putting together that run during the last couple of weeks to get into the playoffs and then the entire playoffs like he definitely will we’ll make some room with that opportunity given but I don’t know I don’t know what that passing works gonna look like this coming year so I’m I’m with Yeah, I’m probably put them in there. So like that third third Rhinebeck flex type of deal but not a guy that I’m necessarily swinging for the fences early with.

Alex 15:30
I think what what needs to be remembered is that Matt naggy is in charge of that offense. And in even if he relinquished his play calling duties or whatever, Maggie’s in charge of that offense, and he finally seems like he may have a quarterback that he won’t be at ends with, be it Mitch Trubisky Be it Nick Foles Be it whatever they decide to do. So I think that that needs to be remembered that this offense is going to be dynamic. and shoot they were they were what five and oh and then they switched quarterbacks and you know, the the season didn’t really play out the way that they wanted but they still made the playoffs didn’t pay. There. Were they close? I know they were right there at the end. They were they were in tight games. Trying to make the playoffs I guess out of though they may have seen Okay, thank you bears made the playoffs what I thought so, you know, this this offense, you know, while it may look dysfunctional from the outside, there’s some really good pieces to it. And and David Montgomery is front and center until Justin Fields establishes himself in Montgomery is front and center. As one of those great pieces I know there’s there’s another one in the wide receiver room that we’ll talk about, but that will again be contingent upon who’s throwing in the football. But David Montgomery, you don’t really need to worry too much about who’s throwing the football because it’s a lot easier to turn around and hand it off than it is to throw it out 15 yards and subsequently missed by 15 yards. That’s one

Tarik Cohen RB Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Derek 17:14
Yep, that’s one we got it in there this time. So Ah, Alrighty. So let’s go ahead and move on old to Tarik Cohen, who had an injury shortened season last year, finishes running back 114. But you know, really went down with that knee injury in week three and miss the rest of the season. But what are your thoughts about treecko and going in and his role in this offense?

Kevin 17:40
I like tree Cohen as a depth piece later in drafts. He’s a guy that’s kind of being forgotten a little bit because that injury, but I do think that he will have he will have some decent flex appeal, depending on your roster construction. He’s not built to take the lead back roll. That’s why they brought Williams in behind him. That’s that’s a insurance policy against Montgomery if he gets dinged up more so than Terry Cohen. But he has he’s that quick. You know, he’s that quick fly route guy coming out of the backfield. Right, that’s what they use him for. They run him on stretch plays, they don’t run in between the tackles, which is good at five foot six and 190. You know, he kind of gets swallowed up by offensive lineman, but if you can get him outside the tackles and let him get upfield, he does provide a little bit of pop for you at times. And then with his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. He’s going to get usage in this office like he’s not just a number two running back who sits quietly on the sidelines, that workload is probably going to be split up. Realistically, it when you’re talking total touches, probably somewhere in the name. It’s like 6525 10. Like that’s kind of how it’s going to be between these three backs. But Cohen’s a nice piece to have by week’s injuries just to see what the bears do with it with this new offense and a quarterback so he’s not a guy that I’m searching after in a certain round but he is a guy that I have been finding lately that you know, I pop through and I’m looking for a little bit of running back depth and you know, you don’t know about this guy you don’t know about this guy. All the rookie running backs outside of the top three are kind of question marks this season as well, so Cohen’s a guy that can go You know what, at least I know he’s gonna catch the ball and in PPR leagues, if you’re filling them in as a flex spot or a bye week guy or something like that, you at least know you’re getting volume because those catches and so his floor is a little bit safer than some of these other backup style running backs

Alex 20:05
while doing research on Tarik Cohen, I just saw the really devastating news about his twin brother, who was missing and then was found dead. So that’s, that’s awful. You know, we talked about these guys as kind of pieces and parts to football teams and to fantasy football teams and, you know, their their numbers and everything. And and I can’t imagine what he’s going through right now. Losing your your twin brother. That’s, that’s awful. So, you know, I hate to say some prayers, because it’s awful, and it’s meaningless. But you got to really feel for for what he’s going to be playing through this year. But I was I was looking at what the update was on his his injury. And I haven’t I haven’t found the answer to that just yet. So Derek, if you would like to go, I will find that answer. And then I will, I will try man again.

Kevin 21:15
All right, that’s to

21:17
my goodness,

Kevin 21:18
with Colin tore his ACL back in September. So he is on track, barring any sort of setback, Alex, to be able to show up and participate during the preseason workouts, if the players decide to participate in these. So I’m not too worried about his ability to come in and then play. Again, because they’re not running in between the tackles, right, like, he’s a little bit safer, because he’s not getting swallowed up, wrapped up and twisted. There, you know, in the middle of the field, he’s getting off to the side, and he’s able to get out of bounds or some shoestring tackles are a little bit less wear and tear on the body than what a traditional Thumper, if you will, would have to experience.

Alex 22:13
Thank you for that. I’ll continue if I if I can. Derek, being Since you didn’t want to speak with your microphone, I will continue on.

Derek 22:23
I’m just, I’m just leaving it live that upon Mike.

Alex 22:28
Here’s what you can probably pretty much guarantee out of three CO and based on just the past last year notwithstanding, because of that injury, you can probably bank on about 150 to 160 touches, right, he’s had 141 7143 touches throughout the season, and you can probably bank somewhere in the 75 of those touches 7585 of those touches will be will be runs. So if you’re looking for the volume on the ground, if you play in a PPR league that in theory, Cohen is right up your alley, if you’re not in the PPR League, and that value I think goes down just slightly.

Derek 23:15
Yeah, I mean, for me, he’s probably a guy, that’s a 10th round plus flyer type of thing. I don’t necessarily see him, you know, he’s he’s a, he’s a deep late shot type of deal that has some PPR upside, but he’s more of a depth piece fill in, you know, in an injury type of thing fill in, you know, by week type of thing, because he may give you some of that PPR value, but he’s not a guy that’s going to have much of a ceiling and or much of a floor out there. But I think that’s where you’ll see him and really, you know, take some of that workload is going to be with the passing game. And that’s, that’s about it, you know, a spell bag type of thing.

Kevin 23:56
Would you rather have name Heinz or tree Cohen? Because they’re kind of the same back they

Derek 24:01
are the same names? Yeah, they’re the same for me and either one of those. Um,

Alex 24:07
yeah, that seems like six one half dozen or the other.

Derek 24:09
I think I’d actually probably rather have treat Cohen in that in that instance, simply because of the fact that that Indianapolis backfield I think they’re gonna try and work Marlon Mack in a little bit again this year, so that if that situation holds true, I think that it’s a little bit more crowded and I’ll take the guy that’s you know, in a little less crowded situation there.

Kevin 24:35
And that could be because I feel like the top three backs okay. David Montgomery is not Jonathan Taylor so that’s not the comparison there but it’s where you go after that. It’s Naeem Hines and treat Cohen and very much the same guy as our Damian Williams and Marlin Mac. Like those the backups to the starters, right? Your depth chart, those are a lot of The same guys. And so that’s why I’m just seeing if we place them the same because I do think that where I’m looking at one eyeball and the other, right, like if that’s if that’s something depending on your scoring system or, or just a depth piece. That’s something I’m eyeballing they’re not an outright handcuff. Like, it’s not that type of situation. It’s, you know, what we’re getting into rounds, you know, 1617, something like that. And, holy crap, this guy’s left on the board, because everybody wanted to jump on the rookies. Well, hell, I’ll take a flyer on him the 16th round, if it doesn’t pan out in three weeks, then you cut them and you go grab someone else who’s starting to emerge where people overlook them like, it’s a no, it’s a very low risk play, to wait and draft someone like a Tariq Cohen or an nyeem, Heinz. And then if it doesn’t work, guys, move off and move on. There will be other opportunities when you’re looking at, you know, the bottom three, four or five guys on your bench?

Alex 25:59
Yeah, I think maybe the only big differentiator is years of service. Right. I mean, Heinz has probably been in the league for this will be his fourth year and three, Cohen is going into his fifth year, I believe. So. Yeah, it’s it’s just the one year of service that that you do is the real differentiator. I mean, it really depends on do you want to go younger? Do you want to go with more experience, I guess, is the word.

Derek 26:31
And actually, maybe that is the case, you go with a little bit more youth there and you go with the guide, not coming off of a coming off of a season ending entry the year before. So there’s something to that. But I think you’re right, like that’s that right. There is probably a perfect comparison out there as far as who they’re going to be drafted around and who would you rather have like, they really are fulfilling the same role just on two different teams there some, but that you bring up a another guy in that running back room over there in Chicago, Damian Williams, and the last time we saw him, he was winning a Super Bowl with the chiefs and put up a really good game in that one. But opting out of the 2020. Season, guys, what are your thoughts on Damian Williams?

Kevin 27:10
He should have been the Super Bowl MVP,

Alex 27:13
that is a hill that I think we will all die on.

Kevin 27:19
A Broncos fan, Damian Williams was the MVP that Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes did what he needed to at the right time. But Williams is the one who controlled that game. And the game

27:33
is the game changer.

Kevin 27:34
So yeah, I’m glad I’m glad that he’s coming back. I’m glad that his his personal life has kind of subsided a little bit he did sit out the 2020 season. His grandmother was in very poor health. And he’s very close with her and didn’t want to take the chance of contracting COVID and then giving it to her and with her her immune deficiency because of her health problems. He didn’t he didn’t want that on his conscious. You know what, I get that more power to him. This is more than than just a game, right? These guys have lives and families and all that sort of stuff. So I think it’s a bummer for him in a way because I do think that that kind of professionally set him back. I think he had a role carved out with the chiefs. Had he been able to return and the pandemic was not going on? That wasn’t the case. he opted out I think even before the draft if I’m not mistaken. Was it it was after after? Yeah. So um, but yeah, so they drafted ch. Williams said, Yeah, I’m not going to. And then the rest is history. But I think I think he will serve a small role, right, like he’s not going to take big chunks of plays away from from Montgomery. But he’s going to have a couple packages. There’s no doubt about it. You don’t bring in a Super Bowl winning running back with some experience and, and success under his belt and not do anything with him. Now. I don’t think he emerges as the RB one on the Chicago Bears. And quite frankly, he’s a guy and mostly it’s going undrafted. So I think he’s a guy that you can flag. You can keep an eye on him. If you really love your team, and there’s nothing else out there that you’d like for the last pick of your draft and you happen to be sitting on David Montgomery. I go ahead and pick him up, I guess. I mean, no one’s gonna tell you you’re a fool for picking Damian Williams with the last pick in your draft. But outside of that, I’m gonna sit back and see where that falls like I’m not gonna go after him. I’m not gonna reach. I’ll fly I’ll keep an eye on it and see what happens if my GM stumbles that he gets dinged up. Damian Williams is the guy taking over that first and second down, roll clearly. So he instantly walks into RB to type volume. If Montgomery goes down,

Alex 30:15
that’s that’s the role that I see Damian Williams, you know, he’s the veteran. He’s kind of going to be the old hat in the room at the ripe old age of 29, I think. But he’s going to be he’s going to be kind of that veteran presence, that leadership among that group, but really, if you were going to handcuff David Montgomery, Damian Williams is the handcuff in air quotes for people listening. That he’s the handcuff. If you were going to go with the handcuffs, it’s Damian Williams, it’s not three coin, three coins not gonna go into that first and second down workload, he might he might go into some of those secondary workloads, but you know, it’s going to be Damian Williams, that’s going to get the turnaround and hand the ball and try and get four yards in a cloud of dust that that’s what he’s going to be so if that’s what you’re doing and you have like you said, Kevin, a David Montgomery already on your roster, and you want to protect that investment, because you believe in what the bears are doing on offense. Then you go after Damian Williams late late late lately or you pick them up, you know, in free agency and try to get him for no money off your fat budget if that’s the way you got to go.

Derek 31:29
Yeah, I think you guys both hit the nail right on the head there. And unless you guys have anything else you want to talk about in this running back room, we’ll go ahead and move on to the wide receivers. Alrighty, guys, so the wide receiver room this is where it starts getting a little interesting here with the bears to Alan Robinson, who ended up ended up signing his franchise tag when there was a little bit conversation early on in the offseason didn’t necessarily look like that might be the case but he’ll be back and probably has the best quarterback support that he’ll play with his in his tire career here but finishes wide receiver 12 last year 102 receptions 151 targets 1250 yards for six touchdowns. Guys, your thoughts on Allen Robinson.

Allen Robinson WR Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Kevin 32:18
I love a Rob I’ve I’ve loved a Rob for a couple different years. He’s a PPR guy who is kind of the only show in town. So you know the volume and consistency is going to be there. At times it was the quarterback play that led to a couple of down weeks. It wasn’t necessarily what Alan Robinson was doing. It was the fact that for whatever reason, Mitch Trubisky would forget Alan Robinson was on the field and only throw it his direction five or six times as as opposed to peppering him with eight to 10 targets and making sure that he’s a focal point in the end zone. But he’s a guy who has consistently put up really good numbers with subpar quarterbacks. He did it in Jacksonville before he left he’s done it in Chicago, he runs a very crisp routes. He’s very good on the sideline, contorting his body coming down with the ball. He will get behind the defense every once in a while. That’s not necessarily his forte. But he is a very, very good, wide receiver and a guy that most most most people pick up as their wide receiver to like he gets overlooked. He gets picked up as a wide receiver too, and then ends up in top 12 wide receiver one territory. So there’s value with Alan Robinson. So the same type of things happening this year. He’s not being drafted in the top 12 of receivers. He’s being drafted just outside of that. But I think that there’s a very clear path of targets and volume headed his way no matter whether it’s Andy Dalton or Justin Fields when he comes in the game, so I feel comfortable with Alan Robinson and I think that he’s going to finish the Rb 11 or maybe Rb 10. This or shoot Yeah, excuse me wide receiver. And wow, that’s just you go No, no, no, no RB but you go from six touchdowns and kind of gets up to eight where this elite class or the upper echelon class of wide receiver is. He’s a top he finishes right there inside the top 10 and you get your value on him.

Alex 34:41
Yeah, I think if they’re like I so I’ve never really had the chance to have Alan Robinson on my team because I play in a lot of leads with Kevin and slow on the slow on the draw apparently, because he has gone before I have a chance to really get him so I don’t know what it’s like to have Alan Robinson as a fan. I see football player but I know that Kevin Laureus? Yeah, I’m sure you guys understand. And he’s he is an enigma because he did it with with subpar quarterback play. Yeah, he’s been putting up these numbers. And at the receiver spot, you know, I say this often you’re only as good as the guy throwing you the football. That’s not the case with Alan Robinson, because he is just as good, whether it’s Blake Bortles, or Mitch Trubisky. You know, guys that aren’t starting quarterbacks in the league anymore. And he’s been able to be consistent and put up numbers. If he falls into the end zone a few more times. Yeah. I mean, he’s, he’s right there at the end of that wide receiver, one territory, and you’re probably going to be able to draft him. After that first round of wide receivers kind of goes.

Derek 35:50
No, you hit the nail right there on the head. And he’s a guy that you’re typically you’re able to get in about the fourth round in most cases. And for me, and the way I tend to construct teams, especially redraft, that’s the top, that’s the point in time I start looking to pick up my first wide receiver and Alan Robinson fits the bill of what I really like to put on a team. He’s a guy that gets a ton of targets, gets a ton of receptions out there. You know, to Kevin’s point, he’s not going to be a guy that necessarily gets behind the defense and makes a big play and breaks one, but he’s a big body receiver that’s going to see a ton of volume. And that’s the type of wide receiver that I love having as that consistent anchor point on my team and really be able to bring some things home there. And so kind of brings us to another question that I’ve got for you in, you know, right now, when you’re looking fourth round type of wide receivers, you’ve got some guys like Alan Robinson, Terry Maclaurin is up there. So if you guys had to pick one of those fourth round wide receivers, who are you putting on your team and why?

Alex 37:02
The options are between Allen Robinson and Terry Maclaurin is that what we’re narrowing it down to

Derek 37:07
if you’ve got another fourth round receiver that you would that you would rather have in there, I will accept that answer as well.

Alex 37:14
I just I would go out and Robinson I think because you know what you’re getting? He know that he’s going to be okay, no matter who’s throwing the football there in Chicago. And, and we know that Andy Dalton can feed a elite wide receiver, right? We saw that in his years in Cincinnati. He may not be the same guy that he was when he was in Cincinnati. But we know that he can find an elite receiver and utilize an elite receiver like we saw with AJ Green. And I think that that that brings a certain level of comfortability, given the fact that we know that while Maclaurin this year, we’ll probably get the ball thrown his way several times. It will also get thrown to the other team several times, because that’s what Ryan Fitzpatrick does. So just based on consistency, I kind of like the direction it was, you know, if this is a dynasty, I’m a little more comfortable with Alan Robinson because I know what’s coming up after this year, slash halfway through this year, versus a Terry Maclaurin where I’m not sure exactly what the future holds at the quarterback spot there in Washington.

Kevin 38:23
I think my roster construction for this specific pic that we’re talking about would very much vary on how my first three rounds went. If I’m able to, you know, if I’m in a position where you get that, you know, bell cow running back in the first round, and then you’re able to follow through in the second round and maybe you have someone maybe you have Davante Adams fall to Davante Adams is a guy who’s plummeting in drafts right now with all this news swirling around with Aaron Rodgers. So if I’m able to start and and this is, this is actually possible, right? If you start with Jonathan Taylor, and then follow that up with Davante Adams. Okay, there you go. So then third round, whatever, you know, pick

Alex 39:15
running matter running back. Yeah, yeah, pick somebody that’s an RB to territory. Even if you get that this might be a reach but even if you get a David Montgomery at that point,

Kevin 39:27
right. So you’re you’re looking at something like that. Then how about this Gibson, right, you get Gibson fall somehow or something. Anyway, Joe Mixon you start with Jonathan Taylor Davante Adams, Joe Mixon So there’s your starting three. I’m okay with taking a Terry Maclaurin in that situation. Because I have my floor set. I have a guy who is going to be peppered with target. has great hands, who run Criss routes, who is clearly the focal point of the passing game in davante. Adams and that’s not going to change whether it’s Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love Chad Kelly, or whoever else, they stick in under center like davante. Adams is going to be the first second and half the third option, and then you’re going to float in Eleazar Bobby tonyan and Aaron Jones. Right. All this to say, at that point, then I’d go with Terry Maclaurin for that upside. term. A corn is a guy who saw a very healthy increase in targets last year, much to my surprise, I didn’t think he was going to see it. And he did through all the quarterback turmoil in Washington. McLuhan’s targets were increased. He’s young. He is that speedster who does get behind the defense. And because Fitzpatrick is the quarterback, you know, he’ll be more than happy to take those deep shots where Alex Smith didn’t. So you can see a little bit more bang with Terry Maclaurin this coming season so that would be kind of the one situation right lane that but other than that, Keenan Allen, Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper all kind of fall right in that same window. In most cases, I’m taking Alan Robinson but there are circumstances based off my roster construction that I will go Terry Maclaurin and, and be happy with it. He’s my second wide receiver. There’s nothing wrong with that.

Derek 41:36
Very good. I love it. Love it. Love it. So that’s that’s kind of where I’ve, where I’m at as well. And you look at right now kind of what you’re getting in the fourth round for wide receivers and who could potentially be there. More often than not, you’re talking Maclaurin, you’re talking Godwin. You’re talking Alan Robinson, Amari Cooper, Cooper cup, Kenny Golladay. And DJ Moore. As far as kind of the group of receivers that you’re going to get around there. And out of those guys, Alan Robinson is definitely going to provide kind of the best floor out they’re not necessarily going to have the the ceiling that some of these other guys will have. But from a consistency standpoint, he’s a guy that I would absolutely love to be able to put on my roster and especially the fourth round. Yeah, you know how I construct them. It’s typically a very high floor team. And Alan Robinson fits that bill very, very well for me. Alrighty, let’s go ahead and move on to some of the other wide receivers that they’ve got over there in Chicago. You’re talking Darnell Mooney, who is finished wide receiver 51 last year 61 targets I’m sorry, 61 receptions at 98 targets and 631 and four through the air guys your thoughts on Darnell Mooney

Darnell Mooney WR Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Kevin 42:50
there is a love affair going around the fantasy industry at the moment for Mooney

42:57
I

Kevin 43:00
don’t know that I’m subscribing to that much of it. Now, he has taken over that second wide receiver role that Anthony Miller just could never quite wrap his hands around. So there’s definitely a piece there Justin Fields makes it a little bit more intriguing than Mitch Trubisky or Nick Foles did but I’m just not sold guys like Mooney is not a guy that I’m going yeah, that’s that’s the piece right there. That’s that’s the piece right there. Like we’re getting down that lane. I’m looking you know, maybe I’ll pick my first tight end instead of a Darnell Mooney like I don’t need a fifth wide receiver of that caliber like if I’m wanting a fifth wide receiver I want upside I want use I want you know some some bang now money’s not providing that for me and so I’m gonna politely pass it’s just not in my wheelhouse per se

Alex 44:04
it’s funny though, cuz you say you want upside. You want you all the guy was a rookie last year. So he’s

Kevin 44:13
got you Mims. But I’m sure I want Pittman. I want Paris Campbell. I’d rather take a flyer on Paris Campbell.

Alex 44:21
But here’s here’s the point that I’ll make to that is that he is young. And it’s really hard to judge somebody not named Alan Robinson on the Chicago Bears wide receiving corps because of who was throwing the football to them last year. That that’s that’s very, very difficult to judge what he is going to be based on who’s throwing the football last year. I mean, you have Mitch Trubisky, who could sometimes hit the broadside of a barn. And you had Nick Foles who wasn’t exactly going to blaze you with throws, ways you blow you away with throws. He was making. So it’s really difficult to see what this kid’s gonna beat. I is smaller. He does kind of remind me of those wide receiver types that Justin Fields like to play with there at Ohio State show, maybe there’s something there. But we can only judge somebody based on what we’ve seen from them. What we’ve seen wasn’t all that great. But I still think that there might be some upside I can see why this buzz is coming about on this kid because he only played one year, he had a relatively okay year for a rookie. And now he’s gonna have an upgrade at the quarterback position so I can understand where this buzz is coming from. That being said, I’m staying away.

Kevin 45:48
Thank you. I guess my main point is, there are third receiver options on teams that are more enticing to me than what Darnell Mooney is as the second wide receiver in Chicago.

46:02
I’m Michael Gallup.

Kevin 46:05
Well, Michael,

Derek 46:06
for third, I just give you a comparison as a third wide receiver option on a team type of thing.

Kevin 46:11
Michael gap. I’m Chase Claypool for the Steelers, you know, Parris Campbell for the Colts, you know, that type of option? I don’t know. I think I’d rather have Terrence Marshall, the rookie going into Carolina. Over Darnell Mooney now, not saying that Sam Bradford is a better quarterback than Justin Fields currently. Yeah, Donald.

Alex 46:47
But just that just to imagine Bradford on that offense, though.

Kevin 46:53
He just be sucking off of him like a leech. I made another you know, 100 and 50 million for just sitting on my butt. It’s the Kevin

Derek 47:03
Kevin love affair with Sam Bradford

Kevin 47:05
continues no Sam Bradford’s biggest waste of space. If he didn’t go if he didn’t go to Oklahoma, no one would ever know who he was. He would have never been drafted one overall. And then he wouldn’t have sucked NFL teams out of hundreds of millions of dollars, didn’t

Derek 47:21
he? Yes, yeah.

Kevin 47:24
Again, if it isn’t good college quarterback

Alex 47:27
we’ve seen we’ve seen good college quarterbacks not making NFL that’s the dude that just signed to be a tight end at age 34

Derek 47:36
in Jacksonville but no I’m I’m right there with you too. I don’t know that Darnell Mooney, you know does anything to to kind of blow my hair back what little of it there is but the he’s a guy that that may have had some intrigue out there, I guess is probably the best way to say it. He’s got some intrigue because of the use and because of what the possibilities can be with a some better quarterback play there. Right? Yes, second receiving option. We’ll see what that kind of looks like. But that was one of those when you and I were talking earlier today, Kevin and we’re talking about a guy named Darnell Mooney, we were kind of going back and forth about you know, where there’s some potential trade value could be on that. And from a lot of things out there, there’s a lot of people very, very intrigued about what the possibilities are on that thing, to the point where folks are tending to overpay a little bit for Darnell mony. And that’s a guy that I’m not necessarily looking to do. That’s a guy that I’m going to, if I’ve got him on my roster, I’m gonna see if I can, you know, put them out there and make a deal happen, but I’m not actively seeking them out. And it’s not a guy that I’m going to be actively seeking out in the drafts going forward to see if I can put them on my roster, regardless of whether it’s dynasty or whether it’s a redraft type of situation because I there are a lot of other second wide receivers on teams that I would rather have to the point where there’s a lot of third wide receivers on teams that I would rather have as well just because they’re going to see more opportunity, and they’re in a more consistent offense for passing volume. So Anthony Miller, we mentioned him 76 targets last year, 49 receptions, 485 yards, two touchdowns, finished as wide receiver 74 your thoughts on Anthony Miller?

Anthony Miller WR Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Kevin 49:29
Justin, we’re gonna find out if Justin Fields can resurrect anything that the bears thought Anthony Miller might be. Other than that, he’s kind of irrelevant until either fields can show that he can keep three receivers fed or he sees a change of scenery and kind of gets a new life from a different team but as long as he’s with the bears at the moment. He’s the guy I’m not drafting he’s a guy I’m not looking at he’s he’s just a player at this point.

Alex 50:01
Yeah, as far as receiving options go in this Chicago team it to me it is Alan Robinson. And then there’s Alan rapido. And so what I said was

Derek 50:15
just straight now you’re right, I’m saying just straight down Robin.

Alex 50:18
But yeah, it’s pretty much essentially Yes, that is the the point that that I’ll make, but it’s beyond that it is to Rico and Darnell, Mooney and then everybody else. And beyond that, like, you know, if you’re I’m not getting one of those three, as a receiving option. I’m out. And I’m still out on Darnell. Mooney too. So really,

Derek 50:42
if you’re not getting Alan Roberts, you’re out on bears wide receivers are receiving options.

Alex 50:45
Okay, for now. Yeah. until until I get proven otherwise, which might be too late. But yeah.

Derek 50:52
All right. That’s kind of where I’m at as well as a guy that, you know, I don’t even know that if I’m the last pick on a draft that I’m going to necessarily take a flyer on him. I’m not necessarily a guy that I’m going to be, you know, gung ho to put on any of my rosters, but the bears do have some other receiving options out there any desire to talk about the mere bird Javan Wims are Marquies. Goodwin.

Kevin 51:16
Can you tell me where any of those guys played college football?

Alex 51:23
Get one play in San Francisco for a hot man.

51:26
Yeah, he did. I’d have to look it up.

Alex 51:31
Georgia. I’m assuming you know one of them wins. That wins go to Georgia.

Kevin 51:37
No, Riley Ridley did

Derek 51:42
some backstory there.

Kevin 51:45
But that’s truth. Riley Ridley. Sure. Dude, dude came out of your too early. All right side note bears receiving room. Riley Ridley is the younger brother to Calvin Ridley. And when when they played each other in the national championship game, Riley actually had a very good game against Alabama that year. But he felt his oats a little bit too much and came out a year early. And subsequently has been buried on an NFL roster in Chicago because he needed one more year of preparation, if you will, and he’s just not gonna pan out. Unfortunately, anyway, tight ends Derek let’s talk tight ends. Alright,

Derek 52:34
I had managed to look one of them up to Bird went to South Carolina. So I got I got one for you. But now let’s go ahead and head right on over to the tight end room. And Cole Kmet coming into a second year. Over there in Chicago. The rookie last year had 28 receptions 44 targets for 243 and two through the air finishes tight end 43 last year. Your thoughts on Cole Kmet.

Cole Kmet TE Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Kevin 53:02
He is a guy that I am sitting back and picking off Leighton dynasty startups just because he’s a young guy has a new quarterback who’s going to lean on him Jimmy Graham and gonna play forever. All the things came out pretty highly regarded out of Notre Dame so he’s a guy that in redraft leagues May I mean, I don’t see him being necessarily drafted as a titan one anywhere, which is the right call. At least a lot of the guys we play with like to have at least two tight ends on the roster. So he will get picked up in that second wave and just kind of sat on, most likely by one Craig Hammett, because he has some weird infatuation with Chicago Bears tight ends, it seems like but that’s okay. I make shout out to Craig. But the other young player has some upside. Titans take a little bit longer to develop in the NFL because they’re both blocking and receiving. So commit poses some intrigue. But at this point, he’s still a titan too. So he’s right there in the middle with a bunch of other guys and and doesn’t necessarily stand out to me just yet. I’d rather go with a Blake Jarwin just being in a more pass. Happy offense. Honestly. I think I’d take a stab at Hayden Hurst even though he is the Forgotten soldier right now, because Kyle Pitts went to Atlanta. That offense still has to throw the ball a ton. And at the end of the day, I trust Matt Ryan throwing the ball a little bit more than I trust anybody in Chicago currently until Justin Fields has a chance to develop.

Alex 54:55
Yeah, I you know, I I have a different strategy when it comes to drafting tight ends. So cocomat is never on my radar. fairing that I probably go tight end earlier than than most people.

Derek 55:14
Yeah, you’re you’re an early tight end kind of guy. And that’s that’s all right. A one year championship last year. So good for you. See, I even I mean plug in your championship for you.

Alex 55:24
Um, thanks. And who did I beat in the first round of those playoffs?

Derek 55:28
Yeah, you got lucky. I’m just saying.

Alex 55:32
Sorry that the mark in the W column when no matter what there was not an asterisk next to it that

55:37
said I got lucky

55:40
enough. Fair enough.

Jimmy Graham TE Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Derek 55:42
All right. So for me coal commit has some intrigue out there. And the whole reason that he has some intrigue is what do the bears do with Jimmy Graham this year? Who’s still on the roster? Jimmy Graham, who ended up finishing inside a tight end one territory as tied into 11 really got there through a lot of touchdowns work where you had eight touchdown, so yeah, is this the year that you see, you know, kind of those roles reverse where you see Cole commit be in the red zone target being the guy that’s that’s going to see more snaps playing through there. That’s really kind of where the intrigue comes from. Because if he is coal commit is a guy for dynasty purposes, that actually has a lot of intrigue there, where if he takes that sole role of the tight end, you’re looking at a tight end one with a very young type of tight in there. But for redraft leagues, he’s a guy that I’m willing to wait on and willing to be wrong about this year, because again, tight ends typically take about three years before they really kind of blossom into what you’re going to see them become in the NFL. And Kevin already hit onto the points as to why with that. So that’s where he sits for me. He’s a guy with a lot of intrigue, but not necessarily a go get for me in any league format. But a guy that if he falls to me in the right kind of round, I am very willing to pull the trigger there and scoop him up. Two guys any any desire to talk about Jimmy Graham?

Kevin 57:13
No great no career.

Alex 57:16
Yeah. And if he happens to even come close to that touchdown total that he had last year, I mean, he had two and then three. And then last year was eight. If he comes close to that, that’s his value. But boy, is that a risk to take when there are more viable, more consistent, lead targeted Titans down in the redzone. Then Then Jimmy Graham,

Derek 57:48
I he just he kind of proves the point that if you’re a tight end that catches a touchdown, every other game on average, you’re going to kind of finish inside of that top 12. And you’re really kind of showcases the difference between that tier one and everybody else kind of thing in that in that positional grouping. So that brings us over to the quarterback room. And they’ve got a they’ve got a few guys on the roster there. They’ve got Andy Dalton, who they just brought in this offseason and signed, they’ve still got Nick Foles that they’ve got under contract and they traded up to take Justin Fields in the first round. So guys, let’s, let’s just figure out who we want to talk about first here. Where do you want to start?

Andy Dalton QB Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

Alex 58:32
Andy Dalton, yeah, we’re with the guy who’s gonna who’s gonna start week one as evidenced by Chicago’s Twitter. The Bears official Twitter account after they signed him putting a picture of him and the text cube one little did they know that a few weeks later, true. QB one would walk through the door.

Derek 58:55
Fair enough. I think you’re right. I think he’s a guy that you’ll probably see him move out of the starting quarterback right after the bye week and then start to transition to the fields especially if he’s ready. But Andy Dalton was qb 31 last year and had some fill in roles for an injured Dak Prescott where he completed 216 for on 333 2169 yards through the air with 14 touchdowns and eight interceptions your thoughts on Andy Dalton

Kevin 59:25
Andy Dalton is going to be a serviceable stopgap until the Chicago Bears feel like Justin Fields is ready. Dalton has proven that he can pepper a number one wide receiver so it doesn’t affect Alan Robinson whatsoever. He was able to do it with AJ Green for years he was able to do it with Amari Cooper and to some extent CeeDee Lamb in Dallas last year. You’ll be able to do it in Chicago. He’s not going to go out and win you games. He doesn’t have the laser rocket arm. He does. get flustered at times. But if you tell Andy Dalton to go out and make sure this guy gets the ball, they will call enough plays to make sure Andy Dalton can get said got the ball.

Alex 1:00:13
Derek, you brought up an interesting point that you think that Andy Dalton will be the guy through the bye week. And as we’re recording this right now, obviously, if you’re watching it live, it is Tuesday night, if you’re listening to it, when we posted on Friday, Thursday, excuse me, I know when our podcasts come out Thursday and Friday, the NFL schedule will be released in between that time. And so we don’t we don’t know what Chicago is by week is if Chicago is by week, happens to fall earlier, you know, weeks four through 12 are the scheduled weeks for by weeks in 21. And so if that by week is week four, I don’t think that we see Justin Fields. in week six or week five, excuse me, I’m not sure that that happens. Unless it is just a colossal failure. That’s why what are we at? three doors? Three?

Kevin 1:01:11
If they go in three, right? Yeah,

Alex 1:01:13
unless

Kevin 1:01:14
it is. Lawson Bell? Yeah.

Alex 1:01:17
Yeah, unless it is just an absolute doesn’t look good, is not promising at all, then you throw the kid to the wolves and try to save a season. Because, you know, you get three games down in that division. It’s it’s gonna be difficult. But if they’re looking Okay,

Kevin 1:01:33
isn’t there?

Alex 1:01:34
That’s fair. That’s fair, that division becomes a little bit more wide open. But if they look okay, and we should also note that last year, they were five and oh, and switched quarterbacks? That it would, it would be reasonable to assume that that fields wouldn’t take over. If that by week is early. I don’t see him making a start until double digit weeks, probably no sooner than week eight. That’s, you know, two months in two months into Season Two plus an extra month of training camp and another couple of weeks of otas. That might be enough to get the kid up to speed. Their season might be well in doubt, again, extra playoff spot this year. So there’s a lot to play for later on for a lot of these teams that are right on fringe of making the playoffs. So I’m not so sure that this is such a cut and dry depending on where they’re by week Falls is the point I’m making that, you know, we see Justin field so quickly. So I still think you’re going to get some traction out of Andy Dalton get won’t be the full season. I’m firmly in that camp. I don’t think that he plays the full season or starts the full season. But you know, I still think that with some of the pieces that he has around him. It’s not a bad option in a superflex League. It’s not a great option and super flexibly. But he’s certainly not going to be my QB one. But he might be serviceable for a few weeks as you wait for other options. Especially if you happen to miss out on Justin Fields in a rookie draft or in the if for whatever reason the draft just falls in. You’re kind of stuck. Andy Dalton might be a viable option for at least the first part of the season.

Kevin 1:03:27
So I think he’s going to play sooner than not and I think that because the Bears fan base has been very vocal about torture, torture dislike of the Mitch Trubisky. deal right where the bears traded up to get him. They were very vocal about bringing Andy Dalton in saying What the hell are you guys thinking this isn’t the answer. And by drafting Justin Fields, it bought Matt naggy and the general manner man Ryan pace, right.

Alex 1:04:05
I know that Chicago Bears General Manager that’s how bad they have been.

Kevin 1:04:10
Right, but it bought them a lifeline. So they have to use that Lifeline pretty early to salvage their jobs. Otherwise, there’s a good chance the front office comes in says you know what, net clean house we know we like this guy we’re gonna bring a new coach in who can handle Justin Fields, who can develop Justin Fields. What have you and we’re just gonna let it be his quarterback. You’ve had your chance and you crapped the bed, so I think we’re gonna see fields sooner rather than later. Because between pace and naggy they can’t afford to have him sit on the bench.

Derek 1:04:47
Yeah, I think you’re right. I think that especially because with any Dalton contract, it’s not a they’re going to be paying a guy even more to sit on the bench and Nick Foles this year than what they’re going to be paying at Dalton. So His contracts, not one in which, you know, if you’re if you’re believer and following the money on how teams are going to react and go, it’s not one of those that his contract is to a point where they’re, they’re kind of stuck with him this season. his contract is one where they brought him in, you’re really kind of being that bridge gap type of guy. And then you go out and you trade up for a guy in the first round, I think the fans are going to, you know, make them play their hand a little bit earlier than they may have necessarily wanted to. Because I think you’re right, Alex, I think they probably go into that thinking that that’s going to be the case. But even if that by week is by week five or six, I think coming out of that you’re going to see Justin Fields go through that because I think you’re going to be able to see him compete for the job going into camp on that one. Now Andy Dalton having the season and the tenure underneath his belt and being able to learn a couple of different systems and and all of that how it plays through. I think he’ll get the start because he is that that pro and knows how to prepare for games and, and is more NFL ready, ready at this point, having been in the league and been a starting quarterback for several years. I think that will win him the job day one, but I think they move on from him very quickly, especially if the season goes poorly. So let’s go ahead and talk about the new guy in town there. Justin Fields. What are your thoughts with the bears moving up to get Justin Fields?

Justin Fields QB Chicago Bears 2021 Fantasy Football

1:06:26
I

Alex 1:06:29
just say the Denver Broncos,

Kevin 1:06:32
the bears have drafted so many players that I wanted the Broncos to draft that I almost wonder if I’m buying got the wrong orange and blue on Yeah, by default a pseudo Bears fan because I like so many pieces of this team like I really do. Justin Fields is the guy really wanted in Denver. So I was really salty at the Broncos when they didn’t take him. The only thing that saves that for me is if they land Aaron Rodgers, if they don’t land, Aaron Rodgers, I’m going to be salty all over again. So I like fields, I think fields was clearly the second best quarterback in this draft. I think that his his epilepsy that he has reportedly completely under control and the medicine that he was taking scared of the Broncos off a little bit and maybe some other teams as well. I think that there’s some of that stigma around Ohio State quarterbacks if you will, not being able to translate well to the NFL. But this kid has a cannon for an arm. He’s able to use his legs, not out of not out of like, Oh my God, my first reads not there. I have to run. But more. So the zone read option is always kind of a threat with him. He can bootleg he can throw across his body, you can move the pocket and buy him a little bit of extra time to read the field, he’s played with a lot of very good wide receivers while at Ohio State so he understands that caliber of talent. And what kind of goes into building that relationship. So I wish the kid nothing but the best. Yeah, I’m I’m happy for him. I’m happy. He’s an orange and blue even though it’s not the right, orange and blue.

Alex 1:08:33
Okay, here is my biggest fear with Justin Fields. And that is that while at Ohio State he was under center less than 6% of the time. That number, that footwork that technique is going to have to be fine tuned in the NFL because you have to play under center in the NFL. I mean, you don’t have to but it is sure a heck of a lot easier if you can play under center because it forces the defense to have a number I yes, I totally understand. Yeah, that’s that’s what sets up a lot of these quarterbacks for the struggle of getting into the NFL is that the college game is a predominantly up tempo, shotgun, you know, spread them out read option which the NFL has adopted the read option because they’ve been forced to because those are the types of players that they’re getting from college now. And you want to play to your player strengths, at least the smart ones do. But what really can confound defenses is when you aren’t giving away all of the information presented snap based on your alignment. And you can do everything from under center. There are a few things that you can’t quite accomplish when you’re in the shotgun. So that to me is is a big concern. And that footwork is gonna have to be that technique that footwork is going to have to be fine tuned over the course of otas over the course of training camp over the course of the first couple weeks of the season, until that is, has become comfortable. Now I don’t think they’re going to have him under center 90% of the place that that’s not gonna happen. It’s not, you know, this isn’t going to be your 1940s football, where it’s turned around and run the football, every play, and the forward pass was illegal.

Kevin 1:10:35
So that parison How much was fields under center? Do you have that in front of you?

Alex 1:10:39
How much was fields under center? I said, Excuse

Kevin 1:10:41
me, Lawrence.

Alex 1:10:43
Oh, hold on. Let me look. I know that Trey Lance was under center 25% at the time. Let me see, hold on. This is great. Radio slash probably yours

Derek 1:10:54
while you’re doing that. For for me, Justin Fields definitely provides some intrigue. And it’s one of those that when you’re looking at a lot of dynasty, startups right now are dynasty rookie drafts. It’s a very interesting mix as far as how those rooms are really looking at him, because he’s either the second quarterback off the board, or there’s been a lot of cases as he’s falling down to the sixth seventh eighth pick on those guys. And of course, a lot of that has to do with some of the roster construction and things like that. I understand that. But yeah, it’s it’s very clear cut and most of these Trevor Lawrence is number one. But then when you start looking at how teams are drafting these guys in rookie startups or Rookie rookie draft for dynasty, Justin Fields or Trey Lance often is the number two quarterback taken off the board there. And Zach Wilson has been falling down there even more so. So he’s a guy that provides a lot of intrigue again, and a guy that I think will take over probably, you know, right after that by week, regardless of when that by week is I think you’ll see him come out there and he’s a guy that talent wise, can definitely push the ball down the field is it has the mobility and can be a very good NFL quarterback. And when you put him on this bears team, I think he’s got a lot of pieces around him to allow him to succeed right the bears tend to run the ball a fair bit which allows them to establish the running game which a good running game is a very good friend especially to a young quarterback because it allows them to be able to push the ball down the field without him seeing a ton without necessarily you know guys being able to sit back in the in the passing lanes and really you play a lot of that off ball type of defense there so I think you’ll see some very good things for for Justin Fields. It’ll be it’ll be one of those that I I would be willing to take a shot on him as as a second QB in a single QB league and potentially a second quarterback in a super flex type of deal. So he’s a guy that’s got a ton of intriguing and I’m really interested to see how he looks in camp and and as this thing starts to progress throughout the season. Apparently I didn’t buy enough time for Alex.

Alex 1:13:19
Justin field stat was like right there front and center for me. I do not. Oh, okay. According to this NBC Sports article, or the shotgun percentage for Trevor Lawrence was 100%. He was always in shock. I know. Hey, it concerns me about Trevor Lawrence too. All right, like that. We weren’t talking about Trevor Lawrence. But that concerns me too. He’s gonna have to figure out how to play under center.

Derek 1:13:56
Fair enough. Well, any any desire to talk about the other quarterback they’ve got on the roster, Nick Foles.

Kevin 1:14:03
No, everybody’s gonna get hurt. And he’ll lead the bears to the Super Bowl.

Alex 1:14:07
If Nick Foles is playing. There will be a second or third. I can’t remember how many there actually have already been but there will be another Chicago Fire.

1:14:18
Man

Alex 1:14:21
and it won’t be a cow that starts this one.

Derek 1:14:24
Alright. Alrighty, guys. Well, let’s go ahead and talk about some NFL news. Unless you guys have any further thoughts on the Baylor Bears for 2021 All righty, guys. Well, I do believe that that’s going to wrap up yet another episode of the good old boys fantasy football podcast. Make sure that you’re hitting us up on our socials Instagram, Twitch, Facebook and Twitter at GoodOldBoysFF. Make sure that you drop a subscribe over there on the YouTube channel. The good old boys fantasy football podcast YouTube channel. For Kevin and Alex. I’m Derek Have a good one. Be safe.