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Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football Featuring Ken From Shooters Shoot Sports Podcast
Intro 00:16
You’re listening to the good ol boys fantasy football podcast. Now here’s your host, Kevin, Derek and Alex.
Derek 00:26
Alrighty. Welcome in ladies and gentlemen to another episode of the good old boys fantasy football Podcast. I am Derek and I am joined as always, by your co host, Alex, Kevin will be joining us very shortly. But Alex, how you doing tonight?
Alex 00:40
I’m doing good man. Thank you for asking. After a weekend of fun. Watching the NFL Draft, it kind of felt I kept going back to last year at this time. And just everything that we were kind of all going through and how uncertain everything was and how much of a beacon of hope it was to watch the NFL draft and how, how they pulled that off really kind of seamlessly and then had just how different it was to see kind of the normal NFL Draft again this year. I thought it was a nice touch by the NFL to bring out the Lazy Boy chair that Roger Goodell had in his study or basement or whatever. And they had it on stage there and had the fan sitting in it. And yeah, I thought the NFL did a really good job of trying to bring back some sense of normalcy for the NFL Draft. It was it was fun to watch. There were definitely some Shockers that we’ll get into and we’ll talk about in this episode, but let the record show and if you go back and watch our fantasy, our first round live stream that we did, the record will reflect that I was correct on the first four picks and if it weren’t for the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Was that Miami at five? Excuse me? Cincinnati of five that should have gone Oh wine but they went with Jamar Chase. So that was a that was a shocker. And it ruined my five for five. Otherwise I correctly predicted the first four picks which you know, the first two were gimmies but the next two were not and that was a that was a fun fun weekend. Derek.
Derek 02:29
Absolutely. And we got a p two w fantasy sports up over there. chime in in that we got some fire going on. I think that’s to your correct pics there Alex. But the guys we are joined by a special guests tonight. And we’ve got Ken from the shooters shoot sports podcast, and I dare you to save that about 10 times fast because it might my tongue twister a little bit there. But Ken, how are we doing tonight?
Ken from Shooters Shoot Sports Podcast
Ken 02:56
I’m doing really well guys. I didn’t get to tune into a lot of the NFL Draft. But I do find that up here in Canada. The NFL Draft isn’t quite the spectacle. I think that it is in the States. Of course because we have the CFL right. No, right. Right. The real league right? Yeah, they’re really actually draft was today didn’t watch it either. So I know. Overall, I my Dallas Cowboys, they went and picked linebacker in the first round. They’ve got some, you know, character issues there but was the best player available in my mind. So pretty happy to see that. But uh, thanks for having me on guys. Absolutely. cowboys picked up another linebacker kind of late. As I was thinking. It’s a guy that I know pretty well, I guess you would say. But it’s jabril Cox from LSU by way of North Dakota State or from North Dakota State by way of LSU. If you want to go that route, he transferred his last year and played 2020 there at LSU. And it’s good. He’s got some fond memories down here in Dallas. That’s where Okay. See, we’ve got a few people with some head injuries in the room tonight. I’m kidding with you cowboys fans. But yeah, he’s had some some good memories down in Dallas. Of course, the FCS national championship is in Frisco, Texas every year to a suburb of Dallas, and he won three FCS national titles with North Dakota State. So it was it was cool to see him he was tumbling and I didn’t think he was gonna tumble that far. But the but the Cowboys snagged him up. So be interested to follow his career path. Hey, so can tell me tell me how you got into the podcast game. Tell us a little bit about your podcast. Yeah, so I started my podcast just coming up on two years here next month. Honestly, there was some buddies of mine here in China and they had started their own baseball podcast. I’d been listening into their episodes, and I really enjoyed it. And, you know, part of me was like, you know, why am I not doing this with basketball because I played it my whole life. I love following it. And I was just like, what, like what’s preventing me from doing a podcast? And so I honestly just sat down with my fiance at the time and said that it was something that I wanted to pursue. And she’s like, you know, I think you should do it, like you clearly love talking about it. I mean, I never shut up about it, it seems at times, it’s probably more of a creative outlet for me to, to not have to talk to her about it. But I started it up. And, you know, I’ve had a couple different co hosts that have come and gone been a part of different networks and everything, but my love of podcasting never really changed. The best part about podcasting for me is just being able to meet guys like you, you know, just people that I would have probably never met in my lifetime if it weren’t through podcasting. And I mean, I’ve had the opportunity to interview like my childhood idol, JJ Reddick on my show, and it’s something that I never thought possible. And the fact that I was able to do it because of podcasting. I mean, I’ll be forever grateful for that and just want to keep going with it. So
Derek 06:14
that’s awesome. Ken Yeah, I think he actually took my next question away, cuz that was gonna be very much a. Yo, tell me about the biggest moment that you’ve had in in doing this and absolutely, you know, interviewing JJ Reddick, especially if that’s your childhood hero. That’s a pretty big moment there. So congratulations on that one. But let’s shift gears a little bit Tell me what the what you guys got working on over at the shooter shoots sports podcast like what do you guys have upcoming? What are the what are the listeners need to be on the lookout for you?
Ken 06:45
For sure. Before I get into it, I’ll actually say the story of how I got JJ on the show just because funny enough I put out I like to put out every couple weeks like an Ask me anything type thing on Twitter. And I had a good friend of mine. And he he messaged basically, well, who would Who’s your dream guest? And I said, well, JJ Reddick because he was a guy that, you know, I’m a big Duke fan. So I grew up watching him at Duke. I followed his career in the NBA. He’s someone that I’ve always looked up to. And I didn’t tag him in the tweet actually. But then my buddy did and said, JJ make this happen. And then you know, I put my phone down, I come back and then suddenly, it says, You got to follow from JJ Radek, and I’m just like, I like this, there’s no way. And then I go in and look, and he’s got the check mark. And then he responds, let’s make it happen. And like, immediately, I just went into full on freakout mode, like I can’t believe that this is happening. And Funny enough, so I got to interview him while he was in the NBA bubble last year. And, you know, he got to detail what life was like in the bubble, you know, he’s got a young family and everything and being away from them. He told me all about what it’s like, how it was arriving there, you know, some of the things that the players are struggling with. And so it was a really just a great interview overall. And I’ve stayed in touch with them since and so it’s just great. Being able to do that. As far as projects that I’ve got going on now. I’ve recently switched, I was originally just strictly basketball and I’m dipping my toe into other sports. I just finished an NFL Draft discussion yesterday, and then recorded an episode tonight talking about the latest in the NBA. But the biggest thing for me was switching to doing live shows, I previously had done a lot of pre recorded stuff, you know, you go and do some editing, put it out and, and whatnot. But then, a few months ago, I decided, you know, I think it’s time that I switch into the live shows, I think it’s I think it’s a lot more authentic compared to the finished product of having an edited podcast. I mean, I know I say um, and, and all this stuff, like over and over and over. But I’d rather do that and stumble through it, I think and have people see how I how I talk in everyday life compared to just, Oh, well I had to go through and edit like 100 things to take out all the sounds like that’s just not something that I particularly want to do and I’ve actually stopped doing since but yeah, overall, just loving talking about other sports now not just basketball strictly because I found even just appearing on other people’s shows talking about sports that aren’t basketball, I do have a broad enough knowledge base that I don’t think I realized I had in other sports. And so that’s why I’ve kind of dipped my toes in other sports Now,
Alex 09:30
before we let people know where to find you. I find this interesting you getting into these other sports especially being up in Canada and talking about the NFL. And your your your sports fandom I guess is probably what I find most interesting because when you’re in Canada, you get to pick and choose. So I already found out you’re a Duke basketball fan, right? You’re a Cowboys fan. What What else are you and how did you come about picking some of those teams because right there I can see why you became Duke basketball fan because it was probably the only thing you could really see, you know, National Games they get picked up on TSN or something up there and cowboys games, I imagine are kind of the same way.
Ken 10:12
Yeah, a lot of it is based off of, you know, who’s on the most. And I mean, even a lot of the teams that I follow come through my dad as well. So like he grew up the way he got into basketball was watching the Lakers. Well, his Lakers were a lot different than mine. He had Showtime with magic and Kareem, whereas mine was the Kobe and Shaq those are kind of the first games that I remember watching growing up. Now one thing I didn’t inherit from my dad and it’s probably a good thing as being a Toronto Maple Leafs fan. But I actually while I do live in Regina Saskatchewan here I grew up in southern Ontario. So right in amongst I was two hours from Toronto half hour from Buffalo. So I was really in touch with a lot of the Toronto teams and like I went to a lot of Sabres games went to a lot of I never actually got to go to a bills game. I shouldn’t say that. But at the time, they were also five and 11 every single year so I don’t think I was really missing out on a lot of a lot of Buffalo Bills games when they were losing the the Patriots but i a lot of it is just based off of who’s on TV the most. I mean, it’s not tough to find a cowboys game on TV, it doesn’t matter if their own 16 the network’s they’re gonna find a way to have Gary’s team on TV. So I grew up in Detroit redwing fan during that time, Detroit was one of the best hockey teams in the NHL. So of course, they’re on TV all the time when you’re watching the Stanley Cup Finals, who’s in the cup final every year, it was Detroit. They’re going through a rebuild now, but, you know, at the time, I grew up loving Brad Hall. He was a member of the redwings at the time. So I think I also identified with like a single player on a team. And then that’s how I kind of grew to like the team itself. I was like, I loved watching Coby so of course him being on the Lakers. That’s how I was a Lakers fan stuff to pick a cowboys player that I really liked during that time, probably Tony Romo because he was running for his life but so that for me, I think it’s it’s all based off of what you can actually catch in Canada. Like what we have now obviously, you have, you know, NBA league pass, you can get all that stuff now. But I mean, in the early 2000s, that wasn’t the case. Like he couldn’t stream games, you couldn’t do a lot of the stuff that you do now. And so it was a lot tougher to find those games. Having grown up in Colorado and being a very young impressionable kid when the Nordiques made the move to Colorado, hearing that your Red Wings fan, it’s been great talking to you can we appreciate you coming on to the podcast? But we will ask that you finally kindly find your exit. But I will tell you, they had they had the outdoor game at Coors Field a couple years back, it was the abs in the Red Wings. And they had like, like the alumni game, I guess you would call it and it was so much fun to see all of those old players, those old rivalries seeing, you know, a Stevie why and I tried to forget most of the redwings players. But to see you know, Peter Forsberg and Patrick Wah and Joe Sakic and Adam Foote, and Rob Blake and all those guys that played for the avalanche during that time where those two were such heated rivals, was so much fun, and it brought me I was watching that alumni game, I was at work at the time and had it on. And I could not wipe the smile off my face watching that it was it was so much fun. So while I can appreciate what the Red Wings were and what they meant to the ABS and to ABS fans, during that timeframe, I still hate them. So nothing has brought me more joy than watching them suck over the last couple years. And I mean, we had an outdoor game here in China back in October of 2019. And they thought that that was a good idea. The NHL thought yeah, let’s bring it out their game to China but the weather did not cooperate during that time because I want to say it was minus 35 fold. And honestly people started leaving midway through the third and it was just they were so cold that like you couldn’t even stand it at that point. And I mean, it was Winnipeg in Calgary the game itself I think it was two to one the ice conditions were tough but I the fiance just couldn’t handle the cold and neither could I and we don’t blame it you just can’t do it any longer. 35 below is real and it sucks.
Alex 14:31
So let’s get on well get off the hockey we could probably we you and I could probably talk hockey for for a long time here but well yeah focus on football if we if we can have is oh Evans here.
Derek 14:41
Yeah, Kevin. Kevin has made his arrival. Welcome. And Kevin, how you doing tonight?
Kevin 14:46
I’m good. Sorry guys running a bit late with some other engagements. But I’m here now. I’m happy that Kenneth is with us. I’m happy to be talking about football. So all is right in the world.
Derek 15:00
Awesome. Well, Ken before we hit up the Arizona Cardinals and start doing our team of the week break down before we head over there. Make sure that you plug your socials, let the listeners know where they can find you and connect with you.
Ken 15:14
Definitely all my socials are at shooters underscore pod live shows Tuesday night’s episodes drop Wednesday mornings at 8am put a lot of betting cards out just a lot of unpopular opinions. I said the movie theater was overrated. And that seemed to drum up a lot of a lot of controversy on my Twitter. I mean, I thought that I wasn’t in the minority in that, but I got a lot of hate through that. So I think that makes the movie theater
Kevin 15:45
outside of that. I’m just as happy watching home. I’m right there with
Alex 15:49
you. They sell that stuff in stores now. Yeah, you can make it at home. Yeah, it’s not
Kevin 15:54
as good. It’s not as good. Anyway, I agree with you though. It’s overrated.
Ken 16:03
Yeah. But yeah, you can find me on on all socials at cheaters underscore pod.
Derek 16:08
Awesome. So guys, if you haven’t given me a follow if you’re not following him yet, make sure that you do very interesting follow as you can gather so far through this conversation. And, and well worth it. So before we head on over to the Cardinals, we’re going to do we’re going to hit up the team of the week. We’ve also got the NFL news, we’re gonna give some draft reactions, we got some trades to talk about. But before we get there, make sure that you given us a follow. We’re on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, twitch at good old boys FF, and the YouTube channel, the good old boys fantasy football podcast and the website good old boys, FF, calm, make sure you hit up all of those, give us a follow. Give us a subscribe. We appreciate it. Thank you. So guys, let’s go ahead and head on over to the Arizona Cardinals. And what we’re looking for here is we’re going to go through the teams. We’re going to the positional grouping, the breakdown, all of it is going to be a little bit of a football reference, but as well as a fantasy reference there. You know, kind of given your projections where you’re thinking, your draft position, things like that. So let’s go ahead and start where we always do and that is in the running back room, and they’ve got the newly acquired James Connor there who finished as running back 26 last year 169 rush attempts, 721 yards, six rushing touchdowns with 35 receptions on 43 targets for an additional 215 through the air. So guys your thoughts on James Connor
James Conner RB Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Kevin 17:46
All right. I think you just got hurt again. That’s my thought on James Connor like I there’s a small Smith special place in my soul for James Connor because his rookie season when he or I guess yeah, his rookie season when love Bell set out and he played his rookie season.
18:05
He
Alex 18:07
was a second year. Yes. Yeah.
Kevin 18:10
Yes, I apologize. But love Bell was teetering right and everything else. He was a guy I picked up in our home league in like the 20th round because we have ridiculously deep benches but he was the guy picked up and and I rode his performance to a championship that year and it was largely the value right that you got out of that. Now outside of that I tried to run it back the next year and I got frickin handed to me in the playoffs because he missed half the season. So Connor is a good back when healthy he is he’s versatile. He catches the ball pretty well. I’m not gonna say he’s like an elite pass catcher out of the running out of the backfield. But I do believe that he has soft hands and he can contribute in that way. He prefers to be a power back but he can one cut and go the power back function is probably what’s caused a lot of his injuries and and causing him to miss time whether it’s a dinged up hamstring, he banged up his quad he sprained an ankle. So these are all lower body injuries with James Connor which scares me off of him a little bit. Now the guy that we’re gonna be talking about here shortly actually has a higher ADP which I am okay with. But Connor is the guy that I could see actually being more fantasy relevant by the end of the year because he’ll get more of the goal line work. He’s that Thumper that’ll be able to play in he’ll he’ll be able to help out in a bit PPR so you know it’s kind of old rule in a split backfield take the guy who costs less, your value is greater and so that’s where I lean on James Connor I can get him later on. If I need a you know, a stop gap at running back. He’s not a bad ass. to have in your tool bag, you’re just not gonna be able to rely on them. Yeah,
Alex 20:04
I think the interesting thing with Connor is, this will be the first time that he’s playing kind of away from home the kid. I mean, he grew up in Pennsylvania, he went to Pittsburgh, he got drafted by the Steelers, you know, he spent four years there. So maybe a change of scenery. After a couple of struggling years after that, that one year was 2017, I believe, excuse me, 2018. where, you know, he had 215 rush attempts, he had almost 1000 yards, he had 12 touchdowns. And then he added an almost 500 yards receiving on 55 catches and another score. So like, if he could ever come close to that again. James Connor would be a pretty valuable back in this league. problem is I don’t think that he ever does get back to those numbers. Again, I think those injuries, you know, I, you know, who is it? And I hate I hate that we I can’t remember but you know, somebody said I don’t like the distinction of calling somebody injury prone. I think it’s it’s kind of lazy, but if the shoe fits, right, so with Connor, he’s health resistant. How
Kevin 21:12
about that?
Ken 21:14
That’s good way. That’s, that’s great. We should remember that one. But you know, he hasn’t had the production. The last two seasons he’s had, you know, 100 less carries in 2019. He had 20 fewer catches and the touchdowns were way down in the in the last two seasons. He’s had 10 touchdowns rushing combined. He had, you know, or I guess here, let’s do it this way. He had 13 touchdowns the last two seasons between receiving and rushing, he had 13 touchdowns in 2018. So you know, you’re not Yeah, you’re not seeing that same type of production. And the injuries do play a large part in that, whether or not and what remains to be seen, and something that I think we’re all going to have to pay attention to, if we’re entertaining, the idea of taking any of these Arizona running backs, is what the offense is going to look like down there with with some of these faces in there. So I think that’s it’s something that we’re gonna have to keep our eye on during otas, maybe read some reports from Arizona reporters about, excuse me about, you know, how are the Cardinals planning on using him? If he does become that that Thumper, that goal line back? Well, then his value shoots up a little bit. But you know, how often are the Cardinals finding themselves in goal line situations that, you know, it isn’t just a Kyler, Murray naked boot or, you know, toss it off to one of these big receivers that they have? You know, how often are they running the football that offense, you know, that it’s not really geared towards that. So we’ll see, you know how it works out. But Connor and Kevin, you’re right, I think a lot of people do have a soft spot for him, because he came through so well for those folks that had him in 2018. But it’s just not the same anymore. It’s just the name value, I think. And the issue with it is people should temper their expectations. If you’re going to take James Connor, like, you know that he’s not going to play a full season, likely he hasn’t done it his entire career. So saying that, if you’re going to go and draft him, you have to be prepared for the fact that he’s probably going to miss four or five weeks, at some point in the season. So you can’t go and get him as like your second running back and be like, Oh, well, I’m loaded up at wide receiver cable. You have James Connors, so what are you going to do when he goes down? Right. And so I agree like I hate using the injury prone to but if your entire career you haven’t shown it, that you can play a full season then what leads you to believe that after all these injuries, he suddenly just gonna wake up and be like, yeah, I feel good. I’m fine. I’m gonna play for four straight months. So I think I think you just have to be cautious taking him. I don’t like the backfield in general in Arizona right now, because I just think that Connor and Edmonds are a little bit similar in the way that they play and I don’t know who’s going to get the bulk of the carries yet. I think it’s one of those things where you have to wait until camp to see you know, you’re going to get those bogus updates that say like, Oh, this guy he’s seeing all these carries and you kind of have to go through the weeds of those but
Derek 24:33
yeah, yeah, I mean as you you’re probably right there however, looking at it I think you’ll see this thing really shake up to the point where Connor is probably first second down back Can you bring in Edmonds is that third down, passing work type of back to it. Um, and I think you guys make some very valid points there when you’re talking about Kyler potentially Voltron some of these touchdown things like that, like Tyler had a 11 rushing touchdowns last year, and the majority of those were not on, you know, these super deep long runs and breaks, they were a lot on what Alex was talking about where you’re talking like those naked bootlegs out and around and so the touchdown side is going to be a little bit capped with James Connor, this this coming here, I don’t think you’re gonna see him get a ton of PPR type of work either because of the fact that I think a lot of that’s going to go to chase Edmunds, but all of that being said, right now with with James Connor, you can get him in a lot of drafts looking even in the fifth six round and a lot of cases. And there’s some definite value for for that in there. Because if it’s a team that I’m putting together, if it’s a six round, like that’s a fourth running back on my squad, and that’s a deal where, you know, now you’ve got some flexion you can really set your set your mark and play and play the matchup on that one.
Kevin 26:00
Yeah, absolutely. And one thing Kyler did add to this right because of his scrambling ability, but the Cardinals were sixth in the NFL, or excuse me, 7/7 in the NFL in rushing last year, so they do run the ball. Now. Like I said, Kyler adds to that, right, because you got to figure there’s about 60 yards per game. That Kyler is adding in four but even you take that 60 yards out and it does take a big chunk away from their average, but they’re still right in the middle of the pack for the NFL, so they are going to turn around and stick the ball in someone’s chest is just a matter of, you know, what type of value do you feel like you’re getting on chase Edmunds or James Connor? I feel like there’s a lot of hype around Chase. Edmonds right now. And we’re gonna get into that here in just a second. But that’s what’s fading me off of him. It’s not he’s not he’s clearly not a workhorse back. Like if you’re leading with Chase Edmonds, you have to have a second guy James Connor has at least proven that when he’s on the field he can play all three downs it’s just a matter of are you gonna get 1012 or 14 games out of them you just don’t know that
Ken 27:12
Yeah, for me that’s why that’s why I would shy away and then what makes makes him so attractive now is that he’s on a high powered offense right like he’s going to be on an offense that’s going to be moving the football that’s that’s what Arizona does. But it just it just the headache of will he or Won’t he be available for this week is too much for me. And that’s what I liked Derek’s point of if you’re taking his draft strategy of round six, he’s my fourth back. I think there’s great value there and James Connor, but if I only have like, say I’m taking my third backery my second back if I’ve screwed up that royally then like is James Connor really the guy you you want to you want to roll with or do you want to maybe take a chance on a guy who’s proven that he can play 14 16 games?
Kevin 28:10
Yes, you’re better off taking Melvin Gordon and ever all the all the hype around around Williams getting drafted to the Broncos. But at that point, you’re better off taking Gordon because at least he’s healthy and he has a real good nose for the end zone. So you know you’re getting that touchdown upside.
Derek 28:25
You know, and that’s that’s why the Broncos brought him in there was to be the goal line guy and get into the end zone. And he’s proven that year over year over year, so yeah, absolutely. Let’s go ahead and talk about the second back in that backfield. And that’s Chase. Edmonds finished as running back 28 last year 97 rush attempts for 448 yards, one rushing touchdown 53 receptions on 67 targets for 402 and four through the air so guys your thoughts on Chase Edmonds
Chase Edmonds RB Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Ken 28:58
are then if you’re in full point PPR you really like chase Edmunds because you know that he’s guaranteed to get three or four catches in a game? I mean, combined 850 rushing and receiving last year. And then of course the is Connor gonna stay healthy thing I think is also why he has so much upside because if he does only play 1012 games, then you could have him in for the first and second down for a few of those games. And I think that’s where his value really lies. Yeah, I
Kevin 29:35
here’s my problem with Chase Ed, and just in general, he is he’s good at a lot of things. I don’t find Chase Edmonds to be great at anything. He doesn’t have great speed. He doesn’t have great elusiveness. He doesn’t have great hands, even though he does see those catches. That’s That’s true, but he doesn’t have super soft hands. It’s the scramble drill and You know, flare out. Oh, here’s the running back. It’s not that he goes out on a wheel route and Kyler drops a dime on him 18 yards up the field and then he scampers for another 50 before someone shoelace tackles him like it is he’s he doesn’t wow me guys like and it’s it is it is what it is not everyone on your fantasy team needs to wow you not everyone in the NFL needs to wow you. But for where he’s going in that fifth round generally is where Chase Edmonds is kind of getting picked up now. I’m just not loving that I think there’s so much value of wide receiver there in that fifth round because everyone goes so running back heavy early. I’m I’m very, very content picking up a Keenan Allen in the fifth round. And okay, now I have a, you know, top 12 wide receiver that I just picked up in the fifth round, as opposed to a guy who’s gonna finish, you know, borderline RB two, rb three, like is it’s the value game for me. So that’s why I’m off of.
Alex 31:04
Yeah, and I think, you know, we haven’t really seen him be kind of the guy, you know, and I don’t think he’s gonna be the guy this year either. But we kind of got a taste of it after you know, you know, Drake leaving and all that business down there in Arizona. But you know, he hasn’t had a season with over 100 rush attempts yet. You know, he’s 6060. And then last year, he had 97. And, you know, I’d like to see a little bit more consistency, obviously, last year was his best year but a little bit more consistency and maybe find the end zone, you know, a couple more times, that would be nice, at least on the ground through the air is fine for touchdowns receiving for running back, not too shabby. But if he can find the end zone a little bit more than you know, he kind of shoots up that RB two category a little bit more. But you’re right, Kevin ease train GRB two RB three if he puts together that year? Derek, I’m interested in probably a little game that we can play here of which runningback do we think finishes higher? You know, in fantasy scoring? Will it be Chase Edmonds, or will it be James Connor because they finished? Pretty much right next to each other last year? Is that what we can see for this year?
Derek 32:21
No, I think it’s you’ll see Connor outpace Edmonds for fantasy purposes this year. A lot of that has to do with the fact that I think that he’s going to get more opportunity and when you’re talking to me about running back that I want on my team, I want the guy that’s going to get the opportunity and get the touches. And I think from a carry workload, you’ll see Connor right around about 200 touches you maybe see admins right around about 100 and then when you’re when you play that thing through on the receiving side of it I think Connor still gonna get probably 30 receptions out of this thing where is your even if Edmonds is being the the receiving back out of the backfield, he’s probably only gonna see 60 reception so I’m gonna take James Connor on that one.
Ken 33:08
I would take James Connor as well to finish higher I think Drake also isn’t as good of a catching back necessarily as Connor is. And obviously he’s no longer there. But I think that’s gonna play a bit of a factor in this as well as the fact that you know, Drake wasn’t getting the catches so they’re putting Edmonds in on more plays. But if you have Connor who can do that as well then is he necessarily going to see the field as much as well?
Kevin 33:37
Yeah, I’ll make it a clean sweep. I see Connor finishing as he kind of finishing somewhere between Rb 20 and 24. I think Rb 15 is a amazing season for James Connor. But I think that’s definitely his cap. I don’t see him in RV one territory. But somewhere in that 20 to 24 range is where I realistically see him fitting. And a lot that’s gonna be the touchdowns guys like the work that Kenyan Drake had in Arizona is mostly going to go to James Conner as long as he can stay on the field. And that’s the thing like we can’t predict injury. You know, we you never know. But provided James Connors on the field. He’s gonna see 90% of what Kenyan Drake‘s workload was in the running game and probably more in the passing game. to balance everything out there. So Connor is is my call.
Alex 34:38
Yeah, I’m on board with that.
Derek 34:40
Alrighty, so definitely a clean sweep throughout that. Any final thoughts on on chase? Edmonds. All right, any desire to talk about ino Benjamin for the Cardinals next year? Actually, I
Alex 34:54
will go back if, if you think that the drafting chase Edmunds in front of James Connor. Good idea. No.
Kevin 35:04
Everybody dude. That that I’ve been a part of whether it’s been mock, or dynasty or redraft, Edmonds is going to rounds in front of Connor, every single one and I just sit back and wait.
Ken 35:19
Yeah, I think they just saw the spike in his carries last year. And I think, oh, he’s gonna exceed that once again. And it’s like, what some times guys don’t do that, like, that could have just been his career year and you can’t just think, oh, he’s gonna go and get 125 carries this year like, you see, though, when you know, we all thought that James Connor would be able to back up that season and he hasn’t yet so yeah, I think there’s a lot of the same thinking.
Kevin 35:48
And admins had admins had a game without Drake, right. Drake was in one game. Last year. Edmonds was the guy. He had 25 carries for 78 yards. And it was against the dolphins. Now the dolphins are not juggernauts on defense, but they’re very respectable on defense for sure. So it wasn’t a cupcake matchup necessarily, but 25 carries 2122 23 whatever it was carries for 78 yards. That is not a guy that I’m necessarily loving, like there’s zero pop in that performance whatsoever.
Derek 36:29
Yeah. Yep. Well, and I think we’ll go ahead and move on over to the wide receiver room then you had DeAndre Hopkins coming over from the Texans last year and there was a lot of folks out there last year going into it that were buying into the you know, the the narrative that wide receivers struggle going to a new team in the first season. And, you know, DeAndre Hopkins definitely did not buy into that narrative where he finished as the wide receiver five on the year 115 receptions on 160 targets 1407 yards, six touchdowns, your thoughts on DeAndre Hopkins.
DeAndre Hopkins WR Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Kevin 37:11
I love dapp I love nuke. There’s nothing to dislike about the guy. He’s aggressive. He’s aggressive with the ball. He loves to fight with cornerbacks, like he can high point and he can go long he runs short routes, crisp, short routes to get separation like the only thing I’d like to see is Kyler find him a little bit more in the red zone. Like new Hopkins is too good to only have six touchdowns like and down year new offense. Okay, fine. Maybe that’s where it played in. But this guy is absolutely elite like he is arguably the first or second best, I mean, wide receiver in the NFL, right? I mean, it’s a pretty short list up top. And then you have a whole bunch of guys, but davante, Adams, Hopkins, I mean, some people want to argue tyreke tyreke is not this guy. It’s a whole different thing. We’re an offensive built around speed. And yes, that plays into it. But as far as wide receiver skill set, he’s absolutely top two. He’s only 28 years old guys. So we got you know, at least another three years of dominance is what I’m thinking if not maybe a little longer if he’s able to take care of himself. So, you know, feel free to take him in the first round of your draft if you’re not going running back. And if you do go running back and you can snatch up in the second kudos to you because nuke Hopkins is the real deal.
Alex 38:41
Hopefully, he took some lessons from Larry Fitzgerald on longevity and how to stick around for a while because it would be nice to see him have the same kind of career length and longevity at least. But Kevin, you said, you know down year last year, it actually kind of wasn’t only in the touchdowns. Was it kind of a down year. I mean, he tied he tied his career best with 115 catches and he was it was a second most receiving yards he’s had in a single season. So really what it boils down to is Kyler Murray needs to get him the football when they’re in the red zone. And that’s that’s the the difference between what would have been a really good probably a career year. And, you know, a year where it was a little disappointing because he couldn’t get in the end zone. You know, he only got in the end zone six times. So if he can get more of those touchdowns then yeah, he’s he’s absolutely and even if he doesn’t, I mean, you’re still gonna get 115 catches and 1500 yards out of it. That’s good. You’re gonna like that but the touchdowns are going to make that a heck of a lot more attractive and a heck of a lot better. that you feel comfortable taking that first round pick on DeAndre Hopkins but that’s that’s what remains to be seen is that, can they get him the ball a little bit more while he’s in the pain?
Ken 40:04
Yeah, I mean, I love the hop, the fact that he was in the second round last year, I think I took him in every League. He wanted me a league, I’ve got his jersey hanging in my basement now because of it. I mean, I’m a big D hop guy. I think he’s going to be if the best Wide Receiver This year, if not top three. I agree 100% on if you’re especially later in the first round, and you want to go wide receiver. I think it’s just a safe pick, like Kevin talked about the route running and everything that he can do, he can catch the deep ball like, he’s just the total package. When it comes to a wide receiver. You’re not like the thing with a guy like tyreke is you’re like, Well, I hope he catches a 60 yard bomb today. Whereas de hoppier like, well, he’s gonna get 10 targets today. So he’s gonna get like seven catches for 80 or 90 yards. If he gets a touchdown, great. And then I had a really good week at a D hub. Like I was never worried about him even going into like top corner matchups. It just, I just think he’s that good of a route runner that he can overcome stuff like that. So I think he’s going to figure out the touchdowns as well. We talked about Kyler running a lot of those bootlegs in in the red zone or are close to the red zone and I think this series is going to find the hub a lot more in the end zone and I think a big part of that is also the fact that they added a couple more weapons so it’s a lot tougher for defenses to key in on D hop in the red zone.
Derek 41:30
Yeah, I think you’re right and that’s one of those that when you look at his red zone targets he only got one of those six touchdowns inside the red zone. The rest of those were you know 20 plus yard touchdown runs are catches I should say. So the one thing that was a little disappointing for D hop last year was kind of that back half finish where he was really good and weeks 14 and 15. But you know that back half was not necessarily as good as you would have hoped. And that was part of the stretch that the Cardinals ended up going through and losing was I believe five of seven games down the stretch to finish the season off so hopefully this season we’ll see a just a more dominant performance throughout the entire season. You’ll see a little bit more consistency throughout the back half is what he showed this through the front half this year. And I think that’ll come a little bit where you saw some teams this started getting some tape on that thing and start making the adjustments in the second half as far as how that was going to look and work so I think you’ll see a Yeah, them scheme him in more so especially inside the red zone. So I would look for a similar workload from a receptions from a yardage type of deal but I think you’ll see that the touchdowns up take probably two, three, maybe maybe even four to get him to double digit touchdowns through the air which at that point, you’re talking. He’s competing very heavily for wide receiver one on the season. And that’s where he can absolutely finish as far as the ceiling goes. So guys, let’s go ahead and move on over to AJ Green, newly acquired from the bangles finished at 67. Ranking last year 47 receptions 104 targets 523 and two through the air thoughts on AJ Green
A.J. Green WR Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Kevin 43:19
eye. I really don’t know why the Cardinals made this particular move with some of the wide receivers that were available in free agency. But it’s a guy you I want to say veteran presidents but heck you have that with Hopkins like you know, he’s an eight
Derek 43:38
and Pro.
Kevin 43:41
So I just I’m not quite sure guys, like I don’t know what role AJ Green fills for them. He’s a guy who’s drastically underperformed each of the last four seasons. He’s lost more than a step just because of the leg injuries that he’s had. And and believe me it hurts to say this I love AJ Green. he’s a he’s a dog. I mean, I’ve been watching AJ Green for years and years and years now and he’s just he’s not he’s not even the number two at this point. Like I’m just baffled by this like he 50 60 catches maybe you know call it 530 yards, maybe three touchdowns, like I just don’t know that AJ Green. It’s tough because the name associated with it in my mind, I guess right because you can take that statline and apply it to 50 other receivers and you don’t know who they are but this guy sticks out because he you know once was the the best of the best the NFL had to offer.
Ken 44:48
I mean that’s a lot of targets for not a lot of production last year too. Late 104 targets for AJ and you finish with 500 yards. I agree Kevin like I don’t know why AJ is there like, fits kind of plays the veteran role. You’ve got D Hop Christian Kirk‘s still relevant. You went and drafted wide receiver to like it just, I don’t see why they really needed AJ Green. I don’t know. I agree the I don’t know what his role is going to be in this offense. He’s, he wasn’t a touchdown guy last year, the only two so I’m a little bit baffled by it as well, I wouldn’t even know where to begin with drafting him.
Derek 45:33
You don’t? And I? Yeah, I
Alex 45:34
think that’s gonna be the question that a lot of people are going to be faced with is, you know, will the name recognition alone get him picked up? And, you know, I don’t know that he necessarily at this present time as we’re talking about it. And obviously, we haven’t seen otas we haven’t seen anything that’s, you know, come out of Arizona. But at this present time, it’s it is just so weird and baffling why AJ Green is a member of the Arizona Cardinals and, you know, in a room that they didn’t really need somebody of his skill set his experience and and what he brings to the table, I just, I’m not exactly sure on this one. And maybe it’s a you know, a resurgence maybe. You know, he gets out of Cincinnati, which has been kind of a black hole of success the last couple years. And he finds some some greener grass, pardon the pun in, in Arizona, and it works out. But I just am not sure with everything else that they have going on. This kind of feels like the Cowboys where you’re like, Okay, they’ve got too many options to throw to and that, you know, the pie is only so big. And so those pieces are only going to be so big. How big of a piece is AJ Green going to get? And I just don’t know that it’s going to be one that’s going to be worth taking a fantasy draft pick on?
Derek 47:07
Yeah, yeah, I’m right there with ya. I think that the only reason that I could potentially see them doing this, and I think it’s even still a stretch at that point is the fact that you bring in a guy that from a name value, you’ve got to Yeah, your name value wise, you’ve got to try and schema around a little bit. But I don’t think that’s the case anymore. And defensive coordinators are smart enough to realize that. So I, like I said from that same point. It doesn’t make sense to me. And when you look at the fact that from just a pure numbers standpoint, statistical type of look there. Chase, Edmunds didn’t have much different production than AJ Green had in the receiving game last year. I mean, there’s about six receptions and about 100 yards difference there. But from a pure, you know, statistical output there, there’s not much difference between the two. So leaves me scratching my head as to why they make this move, as well as the fact that they’ve still got a bunch of other receivers that we’ll talk about here. Such as Larry Fitzgerald, who finished wide receiver 87 last year. 54 receptions, 72 targets 409 yards, one touchdown. Any thoughts on Larry Fitz?
Larry Fitzgerald WR Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Alex 48:21
He is playing next year, right. Like he said, Hey, we do that every year with with Phil, you
Derek 48:28
haven’t seen the retirement come
Ken 48:30
through yet? Is this it? Is this his swan song yet? Again, I think Fitzgerald is a guy that you don’t need to he holds a soft spot. I think a lot of people are just because he’s been doing it for so long. And he’s done it the right way. And you want to talk about a guy that, you know, is just what you would want your kids to grow up to be right like Larry Fitzgerald is that person. And so it Yes, he’s he’s a good human, but for fantasy football purposes. He’s not extremely relevant. Like, not to sound disrespectful, but like hanging them up. Like not just from like, playing standpoint, but a fantasy standpoint to like, I mean, it sucks to see him only get 400 yards last year. And he’s, I don’t know, I just don’t see him being a guy that I don’t even look at him from a streaming option like, Oh, this would be a good pic this week. Like, because even if he gets a touchdown, it’s like, two patches for 15 and a TD. It feels like that would be his game. And then it’s like, Okay, well that I feel like there’s better options out there then that I could potentially get, like four catches for 40 and a TD and I just don’t see that from Larry. Yeah, I
Kevin 49:52
I expect him to retire. Like the as Derek said. The announcement hasn’t been made. We haven’t been able to you know Tell him officially thank you for your years of service and, you know, a Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner, all the great things he’s done with, you know, promoting these athletes and kids in general to go back and education. Yeah. I mean, all the things that he does as a humanitarian, he’s just a great individual, as Alex alluded to, but he’s more of a coach than anything, right? Like they’re paying him. And they paid him last year to essentially be a coach, to coach up Andy Isabella, to coach up Butler to basically let neuk do his thing. And focus on being the best receiver he can be. And I’ll coach all these young guys, and it’ll work out and so if that’s the role they have for him again, so be it. Like, there’s nothing wrong with having an extra coach out there. Especially a guy who can say, hey, I’ve done these things. You know, I’ve won a Super Bowl. I’m sorry, I participated in a Super Bowl. I spent my entire career here like, again, all the good humanitarian things, but from a football output view. Just, you know, tell him Thank you, but ignore him and let his name pass by.
Derek 51:19
Yeah. Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. Um, they’ve still got a ton of receivers down there. And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that Kingsbury can’t go into the draft and go, Oh, I really like that. At small Cheever, we got to draft him but um, yeah, a lot of guys out there, Christian Kirk being one of them. And he desired to talk about Christian Kirk. If you guys think he has any fantasy relevance for this coming year.
Christian Kirk WR Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Kevin 51:47
I want Kirk to be relevant, but he just quite hadn’t cracked that code, right. Like he was supposed to be the wing man. Like to fit and then to Hopkins and it just hasn’t quite come to be he fought some injuries. But him and Kyler just haven’t quite connected. So he’s only 24 years old. So there’s still some hope there. But he’s not a guy. I’m investing significant fantasy capital into you know, if he falls to me, and I’m looking for some depth, yeah, okay. I’ll you know, I might snatch him up if I’m stuck with, you know, him or an aging veteran that’s on the decline. Oh, at least Kurt provides some upside because he has speed still and he plays an offense that likes to sling it. Like that’s the rationale behind why I would draft him.
Ken 52:39
So I will tell you the one thing that you need to keep in mind if you’re going to consider Cristian Kirk this year, and that is it’s a contract. Here he is in the final year of his rookie deal. The fourth year of his rookie deal i don’t know i don’t think second rounders get the fifth fifth year option I’m not sure that that’s it so he’s in a contract year so this is a very important season for him. Now if you believe that Kyler Murray is going to somehow find him the football with all these other options now that that the Cardinals have then yeah, he might be worth picking up late but at the same time as like I said earlier the pie is only so big and what slice of the pie is Christian Kirk gonna get and right now it just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna be that big of a piece of the pie. I think Christian Kirk is is a depth piece like he pointed out I would draft Christian Kirk is like my sixth or seventh wide receiver to save myself from drafting AJ Green because I needed it’s honest that’s a great point because you would get to those two names and then you’d be like AJ Green name value and then you’re like no I Kirk has a bit more upside potential here and then I would just take them to sit on my bench probably and probably drop them by like week three
Derek 54:13
Yeah, when you looked at it, he had three really good weeks last year where he finished his wide receiver 312 and 11 and then the rest of the weeks didn’t didn’t crack the top 24 but I see his role on this team basically coming in to spell AJ Green out there on the outside and which point he’ll probably get your deep ball shot or two throughout the game there and if you connect on one of those and you managed to you know play that thing right you’ll you’ll get that get that big play upside there. But he’s an interesting name that could could be out there for like a basketball type of thing is as a very late round flier like that might be something worth keeping an eye on but redraft dynasty I think I’m out on on all Christian Kirk at this point. So they’ve got it. Isabella, and I don’t know that outside of special teams. We’re gonna see him much. And they just drafted Rondell. Moore. The speedster out of Purdue. Any thoughts on rondelle more
Rondale Moore WR Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Kevin 55:16
I’m very interested to see how Kliff decides to use him Rondo more is that speedster so you think jet sweeps you think kind of you know some gadgetry stuff I’m sitting here and kind of thinking through scenarios in my head, he might actually take carries away from Connor and Edmonds, right? Like he’s only five nine. So you kind of get them on a quick toss or something so that way you can get him outside and up the field a little bit like maybe they use him in the passing game for some of those route concepts as opposed to either one of the running backs. It’s gonna be interesting to find his niche guys like, I’m afraid that he’s gonna get crushed, playing in that division because you have the Rams, the Seahawks and the niners and the those linebacking Corps in general love to bend your facemask in and so I’m afraid you stick 160 pounds on a five foot nine frame running across the middle and he may not live to see the end of the season and that is my that is my ultimate worry about Rhonda Moore is I don’t know if he’s if his body is just physically made to take the abuse of an NFL season.
Alex 56:31
Here’s what concerns me more than just his physical attributes which which should, you know, cause for concern. They’re gonna have a package for him. That’s how I see this all playing out is that Kliff Kingsbury? You know, the ego that is that is all football coaches really, but the ego that is Kliff Kingsbury is gonna develop a package for Rossendale more. And the problem with with packages for specific guys is that they, they rarely work and they’re rarely consistent. You know, I think the only guy who’s really broken that that mold and I think it was early on and correct me if I’m wrong here, but I think tyreke had like a package to start off and then you know, obviously he became Tyree kill Am I correct in that now?
Kevin 57:21
Yes. And no Tyreek’s body, it is completely different, like tyreke is is 511 and 210 and was like a cheetah. Rondale Moore is two inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter. Like it’s a lot of mass that you’re missing to take any sort of abuse.
Alex 57:42
So but but that’s that’s what you know, these package these gadget plays that will be involved for, you know, a rondelle more type, you know, it’s easy for defensives to key a key in on and see like, oh, the rundown wars out there, like we should probably pay attention to wherever he is because there’s probably a play coming for him. So his options are specific package or decoys. And that doesn’t really work for fantasy purposes. You need somebody who’s getting volume, you need somebody who’s going to see the football come their way more than you know the three or four plays that they have gadget you know, drawn up for him in his rondelle more package, or you know, him being a decoy where he’s not even going to see the ball. He’s just eye candy for the defense. So that to me is the biggest concern about Rondale Moore now. He could go out and prove me wrong and he could you know, turn into a sneaky slot receiver but that that’s just what this screams to me is that there will be a rondelle more package and and for fantasy purposes it just it it doesn’t work. It just doesn’t work.
Derek 58:51
Yeah, I you know, for when I saw this one and I saw his name get called I literally just had the thought to myself that Kliff, Kingsbury cannot help himself but taking a very fast, speedy wide receiver. And it just reminds me of all those Texas Tech days when you’d see those, you know, the smaller receivers that are lightning quick roll out there and, and go in. And that was just very reminiscent of that and I think the fantasy I’m staying away,
Alex 59:22
I have a problem. The problem with that is there’s not defenses like Kansas, or at least, you know, prior to these last couple years Iowa State you don’t get those defenses in the NFL week in and week out, you know, you’re playing real defenses, and especially in that division, and so you can get away with having the speedster where you’re just gonna blow by because you got better athletes. That’s not really the case in the NFL, so hopefully Kingsbury has wised up in his few years, otherwise, his seat is warming up and and if this season goes awry, it’s going to be hot.
1:00:00
As you
Derek 1:00:01
very well might be right, guys, Arizona does not utilize the tight end much but do you have any desire to talk about max Williams?
Ken 1:00:10
You know, keep the stream if you’re not desperate.
Kyler Murray QB Arizona Cardinals 2021 Fantasy Football
Derek 1:00:15
Okay, so let’s go ahead and move on over to the quarterback room and Kyler Murray is sitting over there in the QB room finished as QB to last year 375, completions on 558 attempts, 3971 yards, 26 passing touchdowns, 12 interceptions. He had 133 rush attempts for 819 yards and 11 PDS on the ground. Guys, your thoughts on Kyler Murray
Ken 1:00:46
didn’t disappoint based off of where his ADP was last year. I think a lot of people were skeptical to see him as high as he was. But I mean, I wasn’t like it seemed like if you have a QB that you know is going to get you 4050 yards on the ground, but can also throw the football. I mean, there’s a ton of upside there from a fantasy perspective, throwing the fact he added one of the top three wide receivers in the NFL and DeAndre Hopkins to it seemed like a recipe for success with him. And I mean, he proved it. And I mean, he’s only going into year three, like so. Nothing says he can’t get better than what he put out last year.
Kevin 1:01:35
Yeah, Tyler’s any way you want to spin it. Kyler is a top three, NFL quarterback right now. Right? You have mahomes you have Kyler. And then a lot of people put Josh Allen in that category right now based off the season that Allen had last year also, with his legs contributing to that. The thing with Kyler is he truly wants to throw the ball first. Like he will run he is elusive enough to get out of the way Get up field and get those yards. But he’s not looking to run like he absolutely goes through his progressions. And and and maybe that’s where he needs to improve slightly right is getting to that kind of that fourth progression before he takes off, but you can watch the film and he gets through his first three reads, which is a hell of a lot better than Jared Goff can do. And and not that they’re the same guy at all. But I mean, you have pocket quarterbacks, I guess is my point who won’t get through three reads before they throw it away or take a sack. Kyler does that he’s electric. He’s fun to watch. He’s one of those guys, that’s fun to have on your fantasy football team. Because no matter how bad, your weak might look at one point, Kyler can turn that around in a heartbeat. And he can turn around and run for 100 yards, score two touchdowns on the ground, throw three through the air for another 270 yards and holy crap. My quarterback just scored 35 to 40 points in a week and I just turned around and took a loss into a narrow victory. It that’s fun, guys. That’s why you play fantasy football to watch that crap. So I absolutely love Kyler he’s absolutely entertaining. I don’t love taking quarterbacks early in single quarterback leagues, but he is a guy that I do keep an eye out for to see. If he falls just a little bit and it happens to be right in my lap. I will change my game plan mid draft or I guess at the beginning of the draft if you will, to snatch him up and then I will figure the rest out to have a top three quarterback like
Ken 1:03:34
that. He’s just a walking point machine for fantasy football and, and, and right the name of the game is to score more points in the other guy, you don’t get to play defense against them. So all you can do is hope for a good offense. And that’s what Kyler Murray provides. So yeah, I don’t see him falling off another year, you know, perhaps a full offseason with with his guys, I just see that. You know, as as nervous as I am with, you know, some of the other pieces on this offense. not nervous at all about Kyler Murray. No. And Kevin, I liked your point about you know, I don’t like taking QB early there. But the two guys that I would watch for would be mahomes and Kyler. And it’s just, I mean, I had mahomes and multiple leagues last year. He can you know, you think you’re dead in the water. He goes and throws for 55 touchdowns then you’re like, oh sweet. I’m back in it, or I’m leading now. And I think Tyler’s abilities, especially on the ground. Like you pointed out the two rushing TDs throws for a couple. You don’t get that from Lamar. It would basically be all on the ground, you get the fact that he can also pass for 250. And I think that’s his upside is that he might be able to steal you a week or two when other players aren’t performing and I think that’s why his age. He’s going to be as high as it is. If I was drafting, you know, third round, and I’ve maybe got my two running backs and I see Tyler there. It’s something that I’m thinking about, like, you know, I don’t love taking QB early. But if I get Kyler frickin Murray, then I don’t have to worry about drafting another QB, like I’ll just is by week they’ll stream somebody and the rest of the weeks. It’s Kyler. And that’s it.
Kevin 1:05:23
Yeah, absolutely. And you could put a solid draft plan in place like that, right? You go to Arby’s, if you land on a Kyler. And that’s the guy that you want to take snatch him up the third. And like I said earlier, there’s a ton of wide receiver value, browns, four through six. So you won’t be sitting in a bad spot, you can still land on guys who are absolutely going to produce and produce very well for where you’re drafting them. So that is a draft strategy I can sign off on.
Derek 1:06:00
That’s definitely one. Okay. You know, I’m actually pretty proud of us. We made it all the way through an hour tonight before. So whoever had the over under on, on that one through the first half, you lost, so unless you had the under Of course, but the looking at Kyler. If you if you’d listened to this podcast last year, as we’re going through the rankings, you would have known that he was going to finish as quarterback to at least if you listen to me on this one, because I called it just little little humble brag humble flex there. But it kind of did exactly what we thought he was going to do. He was going to come out he was going to throw the ball, he was gonna move it through the air, and he was gonna get a nuff run room, in order to do very well like his floor is absolutely there. But his ceiling is also through the roof as well because he gives you that arm talent as well. So, you know, quick little fun fact stat for you. There’s only been three quarterbacks in the last. Excuse me, there’s only been one quarterback in the last three years that finished outside of the top 10 when it came to quarterbacks that rush the ball 100 or more times in a game, and that was Cam Newton and I think you’ll see Kyler very easily get a 200 yard rushing or 100 rush attempt Mark again. And with that upside of his arm, you’ll see him easily. I’m going to call it probably QB three this year is about where I’m going to see him finish on this one. So absolutely third round in a single QB. I’m going to go that way but in a super flex I’m I’m probably not gonna wait and wait around. I’ll probably pick him up in the first on a super flex so but yeah, guys, any other thoughts on the Cardinals or Kyler Murray?
Kevin 1:07:58
Now they’re fun team to watch. You know, there’s a couple pieces that you do want right nuke cuyler Connor Edmonds, if they fall too late, and you’re not depending on them to start week in and week out for you. But if nothing else, they’re fun, because you never quite know what cliffs gonna come up with. And if they’re gonna throw it at times in a game.
Ken 1:08:19
It’s just a fun division as a whole. I mean, it’s competitive top to bottom. I tune in any week that those teams are playing each other. And I mean, there’s always a big reason why, as I said, I’m a big D hop guy. And I mean, Kyler Tyler’s electric to watch as well. So great team to watch.
Derek 1:08:38
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Ken, I know that you’ve got to get run in there. But before we let you go, why don’t you make sure that you know, let the listeners know how they can connect with you.
Ken 1:08:48
Definitely before before I sign off, Alex, Kevin, Derek, it’s a pleasure sitting down with you guys and being able to chat fantasy football. Hope we can do it again sometime soon. You can follow me on all social platforms at shooters underscore pod episode drops tomorrow morning at 8am Eastern time. And thanks for having me guys. Really appreciate it.
Derek 1:09:09
Absolutely. Ken it was a pleasure.
Alex 1:09:11
Thanks, man.
Kevin 1:09:12
Thanks for stopping by.
Derek 1:09:14
So guys, a big thank you to Ken from a shooter shoot sports podcast for coming on and being our guest tonight. Yeah, but I do think that that’s going to wrap up tonight’s episode, make sure that you’re given us a follow on our socials, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and Twitch at GoodOldBoysFF you find us on YouTube, the good old boys fantasy football podcast, YouTube channel and the website goodoldboysff.com. For Kevin and Alex. I’m Derek Have a good one. Be safe.